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- Ken'sPen - 09-17-2003
plus, it's usually shorter so it's fielded by a slower guy with worse hands,
plus it's fielded by one of the primary blockers for the return.
It is usually a good idea,
but kicking it out of the back of the end zone would have been a better one.
- Keyser Soze - 09-17-2003
i would have taken the safer route and kicked it in the air, less likely to go out of bounds then.
- The Sleeper - 09-18-2003
I don't see why someone would kick it in the air the whole game and then suddenly decide to squib it at the end of the half. Is the logic that the only way they could score in that instance is by running it back for a td? well that's obviously been proven wrong not just in this game but I am positive I've seen it happen before. Some douche lineman picks the ball up at like the 45 yard line. A 15 yard slant and then you are in feild goal range. Just kick the ball in the air and stop over coaching.
- criticslovesnatch - 09-18-2003
The point is that when the squib kick hits the turf, the clock starts moving (unless, like sunday, the ball goes out of bounds). therefore, squib kickoffs take off much more time on the clock, giving the other team less time to run plays after the kickoff. unfortunately, bryant's kick went out of bounds, returning full time to the clock and giving the cowboys good field position.
- The Sleeper - 09-18-2003
umm the clock doesn't start til someone gets possession of the ball...
- crx girl - 09-18-2003
as an english woman i'm going to interject. first off, i think copelia is thinking more of an onside kick. second, it's not the kicker's fault, fassil told him to do the squib kick, the idea being that it falls dead on the ground and is less likely to be caught and run back, thus giving the returning team less chance of scoring. yeah, the kicker fucked up, it went out, but it went out at the very last yard, he fucked up, but i think it falls more on the coaching staff than the kicker.
but what the hell do i know, i'm a girl
and unamerican
- crack hitler - 09-18-2003
actually no, its called a squib kick, an onside kick is something different. but thanks for reminding us all once again that you are british :21:
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- The Sleeper - 09-18-2003
I think by saying that the squib kick is a horrible strategy implies that fassel should have never called it in the first place.
- HedCold - 09-18-2003
crack hitler Wrote:actually no, its called a squib kick, an onside kick is something different. but thanks for reminding us all once again that you are british :21:trish was right, she didn't say what the giants did was an onside kick
- The Sleeper - 09-18-2003
An onside kick is a squib kick, but a squib kick is not necesarily an onside kick. The only difference is distance and intent.
- Keyser Soze - 09-18-2003
its all fassels fault. he was coaching scared. its a general rule that you should never leave more than 9 seconds on the clock on your last possesion of a game when the other team has a chance to tie or win on their possession. he needs to forget about san fran and have more faith in his kicking team, a squibb kick is too risky in that situation. the risk of the ball going out of bounds is far greater when you kick the ball on the ground.
- crx girl - 09-18-2003
Quote:teams do this hoping to make the other team fumble and thereby gaining the kicking team another opportunity to get the ball and score.onside kick, in a situation where you're down and trying to get the ball back. except the return team doesn't have to fumble, they just have to touch the ball first.
that's what i was referring to when i said "i think copelia is thinking more of..."
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- The Sleeper - 09-19-2003
actually, the returning team doesn't have to touch the ball. it just has to go 10 yards. then it's a live ball regardless.
- HedCold - 09-21-2003
notice how the redskins did not squib kick...
- The Sleeper - 09-21-2003
YEA I NOTICED