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- The Sleeper - 06-18-2002
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- fbd - 06-18-2002
what the fuck did they do to my audio galaxy?why can i not have anything?FUCKING SHIT MONKEY ASS COCKERS WITH CUNTS IN THEIR BITCH HOLES
- HedCold - 06-18-2002
:-( :disappointed: :-(
- The Sleeper - 06-18-2002
Bitch ass mother fucking douchecocks, now I gotta use some shitty spyware crapass cockmaster p2p thingy.
- SLASH - 06-18-2002
Go to Zeropaid. It gives user reviews on all current P2P
Try X0l0X - Spyware/Adware free
- IkeaBoy - 06-18-2002
This also bothers me. Sometimes I can find an occasional rare thing on audio galaxy provided that I spell the song/band name in the right wrong way but it's an annoyance no doubt. I end up downloading songs off Kazzaalite again because I have no other options.
- Sephiroth - 06-18-2002
The RIAA Won their lawsuit against Audiogalaxy the other day, that's why they shut down.
Again, I would like to pimp Direct Connect. if it were possible for a computer program to have my man-babies, I would flood the world with shining examples of my love for Direct Connect.
(NOT GAY)
- Arthur Dent - 06-18-2002
Quote:Again, I would like to pimp Direct Connect.
Since I don't have 20 GIGS of files to share, I'm having a hard time finding servers that will share with me.
Anybody got a DirectConnect "Phonebook" of servers?
Edited By Arthur Dent on June 18 2002 at 3:13
- kindred - 06-18-2002
Well, damn. That sucks. I can't get anything off Morpheus either since they switched to their new software.
Is Direct Connect easy enough to use for the computer challenged??
- Sephiroth - 06-18-2002
Quote:Is Direct Connect easy enough to use for the computer challenged??
Nope. But look for my thread about it in Uber Geek, I explained everything about it.
- Galt - 06-18-2002
Direct Connect Sucks. There I've said it. It's stupid and dumb and exclusionary to people that don't have storage arrays as desktops.
I hope it dies.
- HedCold - 06-19-2002
yea, what he said
i can't get into any good hubs and i feel so left out
- Goatweed - 06-19-2002
Quote:Direct Connect Sucks. There I've said it. It's stupid and dumb and exclusionary to people that don't have storage arrays as desktops.
Quote:i can't get into any good hubs and i feel so left outHere's what I do : I burn all my MP3/AVI/MPG/etc. files to CD after I get them anyway to conserve space (even though I have a total of around 85 gigs of HD space, I like to play a lot of games, so I'd rather leave the space for them). When I want to go on DC, I just pull out a cd fill of MP3's and copy them off the disc to a shared folder on one of my drives (like 5 or 6 gig worth). Then I can get into most hubs, and when I'm done, I just delete the files.
40 gig HD's are not all that expensive, and are easy as hell to install (you basically just plug it in and you're good to go) so storage shouldn't be a problem. And if you don't use DC enough to justify reserving 5-6 gigs of room for MP3's, just save them to disc and delete them of the HD. It's not rocket science, people.
In case you haven't guessed it, I love DC - again, my thanks to Seph for shining the light for me many moons ago :fuggin:
Kazaalite is also very handy in a pinch - I managed to snag Photoshop 7 off it the other night.
- criticslovesnatch - 06-20-2002
i have about 5 or 6 gigs worth of stuff to share, and i still can't find a server that has a requirement less than 20 thats worthwhile. the one server that i had at school was great, because there was no requirement and had lots of people, but since i've gotten home DC has been pretty useless for me.
- The Sleeper - 06-20-2002
I deleted DC after about 2 days. I consider myself semi computer savvy and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing there.
- Kid Afrika - 06-20-2002
I would like to personally thank all you file sharing ass munches for keeping the heat off of newgroups for so long. Unfortunately, it seems newsgroups may soon be falling prey to the same fate as file sharing.
Illegal shit is a lot less noticable when there aren't 15 million people doing it.
- fbd - 06-20-2002
newgroups and direct connect wont be taken down...they're too hard for the barely computer literate masses
- Kid Afrika - 06-20-2002
The problem is the amount of bandwidth that these types of file transfers take. Comcast now allows for 1 gig of transfers through their newserver (giganews) per month. optonline limits you to two simultaneous connections, and the connection sucks sometimes. I used to get 8 connections, then 4, and now 2. They are really cutting back.
I'm not worried though, there will always be an alternative.
- The Sleeper - 06-20-2002
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- SLASH - 06-20-2002
Quote:The problem is the amount of bandwidth that these types of file transfers take. Comcast now allows for 1 gig of transfers through their newserver (giganews) per month. optonline limits you to two simultaneous connections, and the connection sucks sometimes. I used to get 8 connections, then 4, and now 2. They are really cutting back.
I'm not worried though, there will always be an alternative.
From BusinessWeekOnline last week -
JUNE 12, 2002
NEWS ANALYSIS:TECHNOLOGY
Will Cable Unplug the File Swappers?
New pricing plans for broadband use could make downloading pirated music and movies a prohibitively costly habit
Jon, a computer programmer, is exactly the kind of music lover the Recording Industry Association of America has in mind as it tries to shut down music file-swapping services such as KaZaA. He has downloaded about 5,000 songs off the Internet in the past two years. The vast majority, Jon concedes, were pirated copies, including the latest album from rapper Eminem.
"I only do it because it's free," he says matter-of-factly. "I don't do it to sample new music before I buy, like Napster always used to say."
Jon may be heading back to his local Virgin Megastore soon. Not because of the music-industry's lawyers, but because he won't be able to elude the Cable Guy. A host of cable companies, including AT&T Broadband (T ), Charter Communications (CHTR ), and Cox Communications (COX ), are moving away from the old flat-fee pricing scheme that allowed users to download and transmit endless amounts of data (especially music, movies, and software) over high-speed connections. Instead, they're rolling out new pricing schemes that could put limits on bandwidth usage per month and charge users additional fees if they go above the limit.
"LESS SHARING"? Another option: tiered pricing based on bandwidth speed, rather than the amount of bandwidth used. Charter has had tiered pricing based on speed of service (the faster the download, the more you pay) for almost two years. It reports that 60% of its users choose a lower-speed plan.
These new pricing models could be serious trouble for the still-growing peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing movement, which is inextricably linked to cheap bandwidth. Indeed, the cable companies just might accomplish what the entertainment industries -- with their high-pressure legal tactics, copy-protected CDs and DVDs, and aggressive lobbying campaigns in Washington -- have failed to do.
"This is one of the greatest threats to peer-to-peer file-sharing," says Kelly Truelove, an independent P2P expert. "If a critical mass of broadband providers institute pricing structures that make people sensitive to the amount of data they transmit, there will be less sharing."
RUNNING FOR COVER. The cable companies' adoption of new pricing strategies has less to do with stopping piracy than with economics and business models. At an average monthly cost of $45, broadband is still perceived as too expensive by many consumers, and in recent months, prices have been rising, rather than dropping. That's slowing subscriber growth. According to market-research firm ARS, the rate of new signups for broadband in the first quarter of 2002 slid to 12%, the worst quarter on record.
Disappointing demand has left cable operators scrambling to cover the $60 billion they spent building and upgrading their networks over the past decade. At the same time, they've tired of seeing a small group of heavy users tax their networks while paying the same flat rate as everybody else. AT&T Broadband says on its system, 1% percent of users account for 16% of bandwidth consumption.
Cable companies have another reason for acting now: Because they can. AT&T, Comcast, and Cox have been freed from their agreements with @Home, the now-bankrupt high-speed Internet service provider. Under the old system, @Home controlled prices and speeds as well as customer relationships. Those deals expired at the end of 2001, and @Home ceased operations in February, 2002. "One-size-fits-all doesn't make sense anymore. As more people sign up for broadband, it makes even less sense," says Mark Kersey, a broadband analyst with ARS. "Now [the cable companies] are in complete operational control, and they can do what they want."
TWO-WAY TRAFFIC. Good news for cable companies, bad news for file-sharing services. Networks such as KaZaA, LimeWire, and Morpheus depend on cheap bandwidth. But hard-core file-swappers such as Jon might have second thoughts if they get hit with steep cable-bill hikes for downloading hundreds of music files that, even in compressed MP3 form, comprise several megabytes of bandwidth.
File-sharing programs work well only when users make the songs or movies on their hard drives available to other users, creating a better selection that draws more users, which then creates better selection ad infinitum. Since many broadband users leave their connections on 24 hours a day, every tune or film they've ever downloaded is available to the million-strong file-sharing community at all times.
Remember, file-sharing involves both uploading and downloading. What happens when big bills start arriving in the mailboxes of the "supersharers" who supply a disproportionate amount of the inventory to P2P networks? Would they be willing to pay stiff broadband fees for transmitting files to others on the network?
LOST APPEAL? If the supersharers don't want to fork over for merely being suppliers, they might be inclined to be less generous. If the services have less to offer, they could ultimately be less appealing. And broadband users who opt for slower-speed service would be less likely to use P2P networks since downloading and uploading would tie up their connections and slow down their Web surfing.
(In contrast, current versions of the label-backed services, pressplay and MusicNet, wouldn't be affected. Their users only download music or stream it. And the services' restrictive plans would keep users well within bandwidth limitations.)
The prospects of the cable companies' moves has the entertainment industry cheering. "Everything else in life has restraints -- except digital music and movies," says Ted Cohen, vice-president for new media at EMI. Cohen is optimistic that tiered pricing for broadband could introduce a "financial consequence" for piracy and cut down on sharing of pirated content. "Tiered pricing won't help artists or labels get paid, but it's a step in the right direction," he says.
BANDWIDTH BANDITS. It may be premature to count out the innovative file-swappers, however. P2P expert Clay Shirky points out that more efficient file compression and trading patterns could still make the cable companies' bandwidth charges irrelevant. Some cable hackers have already come up with ways to turn off bandwidth counters and grab as much download and upload capacity as they want. Even music execs concede that the new pricing won't completely eliminate piracy.
The cable companies are plowing ahead. Cox is pilot-testing a tiered pricing plan in Las Vegas. AT&T Broadband, which has yet to settle on a new pricing system, plans to have a new policy in place by summer's end. Spokeswoman Sarah Eder says it's considering allotting a set amount of bandwidth for a fee and charging customers for usage above that level, similar to how cell-phone customers are charged for air-time usage.
That could leave swappers such as Jon with the choice of either getting his music the old-fashioned way -- or paying the cable companies a substantial sum for grabbing it off the Internet.<font color=white>
Edited By SLASH on June 19 2002 at 11:45