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- IkeaBoy - 06-26-2002 I haven't posted an article in awhile and this is actually an interesting topic. Quote:Pledge Ruled Unconstitutional - Arpikarhu - 06-26-2002 so now we just cut and paste whatever issue O&A are talking about.lamer and lamer - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 You beat me to it Ikea, I got that in my mail at work. It's ridiculous...I mean seriously, are we going to change what our currency says now too? Even as an atheist, and an anti-organized religion person, I think this is stupid. - OAS - 06-26-2002 I always had more of a problem with the liberty and justice for all part more than the one nation under god thing. In one of the baseball leagues I umpire, all games require both teams to line up and say the pledge before the game begins. One team has a muslim player, who sit's out the pledge every time. - IkeaBoy - 06-26-2002 Quote:I always had more of a problem with the liberty and justice for all part more than the one nation under god thing.Well were around pre-"Under God" anyway so you needed something to complain about. - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 Quote:One team has a muslim player, who sit's out the pledge every time.In defense of the Muslim kid, I don't think Jehova's Witnesses say it either...it's not an issue of patriotism, its an issue of religion. But if you're a Muslim, now might be a good time to learn to assimilate. - Arpikarhu - 06-26-2002 Quote:One team has a muslim player, who sit's out the pledge every timefor that reason alone i agree with getting rid of the pledge. why should anyone be singled out because of thier religion or personal beliefs? the pledge itself creates situations that this country is sworn to protect us from. - AdolescentMasturbator - 06-26-2002 Whenever I say the pledge I always take out the Under God part. As an Atheist I shouldn't have to believe I'm in a nation that is under God. That's a theocracy. And we all know well theocracies work out. - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 Arpi, you make a very good point, but shouldn't we also eliminate religious holidays from being national holidays as well? I for one would like my mail on Christmas. - Arpikarhu - 06-26-2002 Quote:Arpi, you make a very good point, but shouldn't we also eliminate religious holidays from being national holidays as well? I for one would like my mail on Christmas.yes, they should be eliminated. we get 2 christian holidays but no jewish, muslim, or any other. i consider that discrimination. - OAS - 06-26-2002 He's not being singled out. He chooses not to say the pledge. He is an American citizen, playing America's game, reaping the benefits of America, including his freedom of religion. If he chooses to sit out, he can. There is no penalty for not saying the pledge. One nation under God could easily be interpreted by him as one nation under Allah if he desired. - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 Quote:i consider that discrimination. You wanna make some money? :thumbs-up: - Arpikarhu - 06-26-2002 Quote:There is no penalty for not saying the pledge.there is a subtle penalty. he is being singled out for his religious choices. Quote:One nation under God could easily be interpreted by him as one nation under Allah if he desired.there isnt a person in this country that thinks Allah is the reference in the pledge - fbd - 06-26-2002 i dont see the point of the entire pledge.i saw it all every day in school, and it wont stop me from treason or anything.its words that i say by memory, no real meaning - The Sleeper - 06-26-2002 Quote:yes, they should be eliminated. we get 2 christian holidays but no jewish, muslim, or any other. i consider that discrimination.in high school we got Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanna off, and then all the jewsh kids would take off the 50 other holidays you people have, so stop complaining. - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 All the Jewish kids took off cause school was closed...and besides I never heard a Christian complain about getting off for Yom Kippur, etc. I love religious holidays that give me a day off from school...while everyone else spends time with their families, etc. my atheist ass shops. - OAS - 06-26-2002 Quote:i dont see the point of the entire pledge.i saw it all every day in school, and it wont stop me from treason or anything.its words that i say by memory, no real meaningYou have no passion or aligance to your nation? Do you need to see September 11th all over again to get a clue. Do you not have any appretiation for the ten's of thousands that died for your freedom? Wanna try life in Iran or Iraq for awhile to maybe get a clue? Quote:there isnt a person in this country that thinks Allah is the reference in the pledge It is fact that we are a nation founded on christian principal, but the refrence to God is that of a supreme being. It can be whomever you want it to be. Edited By OAS on June 26 2002 at 3:53 - Maynard - 06-26-2002 Why not just amend the pledge to take out the God part, or write a new one. Something more patriotic. Freedom, liberty, and equality being the basis for it. - fbd - 06-26-2002 Quote:You have no passion or aligance to your nation? Do you need to see September 11th all over again to get a clue. Do you not have any appretiation for the ten's of thousands that died for your freedom? Wanna try life in Iran or Iraq for awhile to maybe get a clue?when did i say that?all i said was that the plege itself is pointless, since the vast majority of people view it as simply words.i do have aligance to the country, but it has nothing to do with the pledge that never once had a meaning from the day it was beaten into my brain - PollyannaFlower46 - 06-26-2002 I was at a Yankees game a few weeks ago and some "man" sat during the National Anthem while there were Marines on the field presenting the flag. No one in my section but myself had the balls to say something to him...there's no religious reference in the Star Spangled Banner, and at the very least, show some respect to the men on the field willing to lay their lives for you. |