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- The Jays - 11-03-2002 Quote:USOC tabs N.Y. as 2012 candidate ... while I hope that I will be able to see the Olympics in NYC when i'm 31, more than likely, our popularity amognst the rest of the world will cause us to lose..... Edited By The Jays on 1036289042 - Arpikarhu - 11-03-2002 thank you ikea. - GonzoStyle - 11-03-2002 It's in a decade yet still I wouldn't want it here, like we don't have enough trouble with parking and traffic, we need to import more bad drivers. - Teenweek - 11-03-2002 and all the millions and probably billions of dollars we plan on spending on everything for it. Fuck the Olympics and while we are at it, get rid of the terrorist organization known as the UN. - GonzoStyle - 11-03-2002 Get rid of the knicks first. - PeterDragon - 11-04-2002 Quote:our popularity amognst the rest of the world will cause us to lose..... Well, the next vote (international) isn't for another 3 years or so, and one reason NY won the american nomination was because of 9/11.- that won't be as big a factor then. One big question is how the financing will work. The Stadium is supposed to be partially paid by NY Jets, the housing in LIC is supposed to have private financing. While traffic will be a nightmare it does lead to a lot of potential money; not only will local spending on facilities spur the local economy, Olympics bring in more tourists than other events, and building of stadium will help future bids for Super Bowl, Final 4, more political conventions, etc. - Arpikarhu - 11-04-2002 Quote:Get rid of the knicks first.you have been a veritable fount of wisdom lately :thumbs-up: - PollyannaFlower46 - 11-04-2002 The city cannot handle the Olympics.....if we don't have enough money to pay our police and fire department, where is this money for development suddenly coming from? Granted they say from private funders, but don't be fooled about where your tax dollars are going. - PeterDragon - 11-04-2002 Quote:if we don't have enough money to pay our police and fire department, where is this money for development suddenly coming from? Does that mean you think that any money "saved" from not having the olympics will go to police/fire depts etc? never. My wife is a teacher; the city waited until the union threatened an illegal strike after something like 2 years without a contract before negotiating. There never is, and never will be enough money to properly pay those that should get it. Unfortunately money isn't allocated that way. Some stuff can definitely come from private sources, because they are looking for post- Olympic uses. For example, athlete housing will be turned into private housing. There is also significantly more thought of money that will be brought in than for other events - a new Yankee stadium may redirect existing money, but an olympics will bring outside money if done right. I'm pretty sure that the LA, Atlanta, & Salt Lake City olympics all made money. - PollyannaFlower46 - 11-04-2002 I'm not doubting that it will bring money, but it will also bring chaos. Commuting in the city is hard enough without the Olympics in town. Also, not for nothing, but do we really want such a huge influx of foreigners in the country? Do we have confidence that they'll all be carefully screened? I just don't think the city has the capacity to handle it. - PeterDragon - 11-06-2002 Quote:Also, not for nothing, but do we really want such a huge influx of foreigners in the country?Will we really notice the difference? :bouncer: - Keyser Soze - 11-06-2002 we have a huge debt, we could use the cash. - PollyannaFlower46 - 11-06-2002 If the Olympics aren't till 2012, what are we going to do about the debt until then? - crx girl - 11-06-2002 well, there'll be a lot of construction jobs for all the stuff that needs to be built, along with various other jobs which would get created over the next 10 years which would help unemployment which would help the economy. as a resident i can see it being a huge pain in the ass, but at the same time, the city would benefit economically in the long run, so it would be worth the headache. - Teenweek - 11-06-2002 How can we build stadiums etc for the Olympics when we are not doing a Damn thing at the World Trade Center site. - PeterDragon - 11-06-2002 Quote:How can we build stadiums etc for the Olympics when we are not doing a Damn thing at the World Trade Center site.Lots of different issues, even though it seems the same. The problem with the WTC site is they thought they had a plan, and no one liked it - that put the process back a bit. Biggest problem will be Upper West Siders who have clout and don't want anything built in their area. - PollyannaFlower46 - 11-06-2002 Quote:well, there'll be a lot of construction jobs for all the stuff that needs to be built, along with various other jobs which would get created over the next 10 years which would help unemployment which would help the economy. as a resident i can see it being a huge pain in the ass, but at the same time, the city would benefit economically in the long run, so it would be worth the headache.True, but they won't be permanent jobs for the most part. Transportation issues definitely also need to be worked out better than just extending the 7 train. Quote:How can we build stadiums etc for the Olympics when we are not doing a Damn thing at the World Trade Center site.You can't build on the WTC for a few years....its only been a little more than a year, building other areas of the city is totally different than building on Ground Zero. - Teenweek - 11-06-2002 Quote:You can't build on the WTC for a few years....its only been a little more than a year, building other areas of the city is totally different than building on Ground Zero. Why not. The Pentagon is completely fixed. Building on that site should be top priority. Wall Street Area is why NY was seen as the economic capital of the world. The reason they can't build because the city is allowing the families and environmentalists to dictate what happens down there. No one knows if it should be a park, a memorial, a business district. Having all these people decide what goes on, means nothing will happen. I can see it being an empty hole for at the very least another 2 years. The same thing is going to happen with the west side. Unless the city owns that site, which they currently don't, similar bullshit will happen. Edited By Teenweek on 1036598006 - PollyannaFlower46 - 11-06-2002 The Pentagon wasn't completely destroyed, and you can't leave a gaping hole in the side of the Pentagon. To build on the WTC site now would be in my opinion disgusting. Granted they can't leave the site like that forever, but a certain amount of time must pass so that a proper memorial as well as structure can be erected. - PeterDragon - 11-07-2002 Quote:but a certain amount of time must pass so that a proper memorial as well as structure can be erected.While I disagree with this, it doesn't matter. No matter what you feel, you'd have to agree that there are a lot of interests involved. Victim's families, business interests, local residents, the state (who owned the buildings), and the landlord who paid for the right to lease the spaces among others. As this wasn't just any building, there are also symbolic issues. All of this isn't easy to figure out, and when they tried to get preliminary proposals they found out how hard it really was. They are still figuring out which architect's should even make a proposal (Hey Barchie!) |