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- Keyser Soze - 01-07-2005
its long as hell, not sure if everyone will enjoy it. get yourself a frosty beverage and pull up a chair.
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ri c k t h eone1 (10:47:47 PM): ok terrific
Wackbag (10:47:49 PM): ok
ri c k t h eone1 (10:47:52 PM): hey steve
oauncensored (10:47:57 PM): can i bring in my witness now?
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oauncensored (10:48:03 PM): this is hysterical
ri c k t h eone1 (10:48:16 PM): lol his aim crashed
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ri c k t h eone1 (10:48:42 PM): wb sting
Wackbag (10:48:46 PM): sorry aim crashed
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oauncensored (10:48:54 PM): no problem
oauncensored (10:49:01 PM): zippy is my witness
ZippyAidsFace (10:49:07 PM): hi
oauncensored (10:49:11 PM): hi sir
Wackbag (10:49:11 PM): why do you need a witness?
Wackbag (10:49:22 PM): ahh who cares lets go
oauncensored (10:49:25 PM): ha
oauncensored (10:49:27 PM): ok
oauncensored (10:49:35 PM): lets start from the beginning
Wackbag (10:49:41 PM): ok
oauncensored (10:49:53 PM): when did you start on the internet?
Wackbag (10:50:08 PM): around 1992
oauncensored (10:50:27 PM): and what did you do back then on the net?
Wackbag (10:51:12 PM): BBS golpher, usenet, ftp etc..
Wackbag (10:51:37 PM): oh and a text based browser called LYNX
oauncensored (10:51:41 PM): any specific interests?
Wackbag (10:51:56 PM): there was no web as we know it yet
Wackbag (10:52:02 PM): porn and cars
oauncensored (10:52:16 PM): wasnt it gopher?
Wackbag (10:52:44 PM): yes, thats what I said.. should I spell check?
oauncensored (10:52:48 PM): ha
oauncensored (10:53:05 PM): and when did you discover O&A?
Wackbag (10:53:45 PM): around 1998, Dont remember the first time.. I was a stern fan at the time
oauncensored (10:54:00 PM): did you post on sternfannetwork?
Wackbag (10:54:53 PM): No, I did read marksfriggin though.. I had not seen a message board before except fo prodigy
oauncensored (10:55:46 PM): and what led to you starting wackbag?
Wackbag (10:56:53 PM): the first message board i came across.. corvetteforum.com I was a frequent reader there.. It inspired me to start wackbag
oauncensored (10:57:37 PM): and when was that?
Wackbag (10:58:16 PM): I was amazed at the software at the time, it was UBB.. I started wackbag in sept 1999, it wasnt an OA site at first
oauncensored (10:58:30 PM): what was it?
Wackbag (10:59:45 PM): It was just a collection of links really, then I added an oa message board as part of the site, it was the old style messageboard like the one new york radio message board has
oauncensored (11:00:44 PM): did it take off right away?
Wackbag (11:00:52 PM): Hell no
Wackbag (11:01:00 PM): nobody went there
oauncensored (11:01:46 PM): did you post on oa.com ?
Wackbag (11:02:26 PM): They didnt exist yet
Wackbag (11:02:44 PM): I changed the site to UBB software sometime around march 2000 and became a dedicated O&A site
oauncensored (11:02:59 PM): did o&a plug it?
Wackbag (11:03:09 PM): Yes
Wackbag (11:03:37 PM): maybe twice
oauncensored (11:04:04 PM): isnt that around the time oa.com started?
Wackbag (11:04:42 PM): yes, they started a few month later i believe on oa.thehellhole.com. I joined and was a member
oauncensored (11:05:00 PM): did you enjoy it?
Wackbag (11:05:27 PM): at that time yes, we both had around 100 members i believe
oauncensored (11:06:15 PM): did you ever have run ins with moderators there?
Wackbag (11:06:36 PM): your skipping way ahead
Wackbag (11:06:55 PM): it was cool back then
Wackbag (11:07:04 PM): until the bang party
oauncensored (11:07:54 PM): what were the differences between the two sites in your opinion?
Wackbag (11:08:08 PM): at that time, before the bang party?
oauncensored (11:08:21 PM): yes
Wackbag (11:08:32 PM): No differences at all really
oauncensored (11:08:57 PM): and after bang party?
Wackbag (11:09:04 PM): we were actually friendly with each other
Wackbag (11:09:22 PM): I still posted after the bang party
Wackbag (11:09:50 PM): but the site got out of control after all the plugs they were getting
Wackbag (11:10:07 PM): people started coming to wackbag
Wackbag (11:10:17 PM): to get away from the chaos
Wackbag (11:10:49 PM): Thats when I met mr zippy
oauncensored (11:11:04 PM): tell us about zippy
oauncensored (11:11:11 PM): (gonzo)
oauncensored (11:11:30 PM): zippy says hi btw
oauncensored (11:11:38 PM): heehee
Wackbag (11:12:12 PM): I was in wackbag voice chat one day and started talking to gonzo who was still at work, he was in the back hiding from some kind of party while I was at home putting together a vaccum cleaner
oauncensored (11:12:50 PM): voice chat was a hoot
oauncensored (11:12:57 PM): i was in there a lot too
oauncensored (11:13:02 PM): as pimp_hand
Wackbag (11:13:18 PM): we had some great time in there, the combination of gonzo and mikey x was priceless
Wackbag (11:13:57 PM): they thought alike
oauncensored (11:14:17 PM): what happened to voice chat?
Wackbag (11:14:57 PM): it was called "hearme" and was fre for almost 2 years, the company went bankrupt
Wackbag (11:15:02 PM): free
oauncensored (11:15:12 PM): thats unfortunate
Wackbag (11:15:31 PM): it was, I couldnt find a good replacement
Wackbag (11:16:22 PM): at this time all was still well between oa.com and wackbag
oauncensored (11:16:52 PM): since both sites started roughly around the same time, what do you attribute the success of OA.com to?
oauncensored (11:16:57 PM): in terms of membership
Wackbag (11:17:38 PM): the bang party and the plugs from the show
oauncensored (11:18:20 PM): do you think bang party was a bad thing?
Wackbag (11:18:28 PM): then the board started getting ugly
Wackbag (11:18:47 PM): i have no opinion on it.. I wasnt there
oauncensored (11:19:07 PM): do you think before bang party the quality, in terms of members was the same on both boards?
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oauncensored (11:20:04 PM): mr internet and he cant seem to stay online ;-)
Wackbag (11:20:14 PM): sorry aim crashed again on trillian now
oauncensored (11:20:17 PM): ok
oauncensored (11:20:26 PM): do you think before bang party the quality, in terms of members was the same on both boards?
Wackbag (11:21:06 PM): yes in all aspects .. they were both fan based boards
oauncensored (11:21:34 PM): and you think after bang party, oa.com became something other than a fan based board?
Wackbag (11:22:40 PM): it stared becoming ugly, members bashing each other
oauncensored (11:22:51 PM): and that didnt happen before?
Wackbag (11:22:52 PM): mods with super egos
Wackbag (11:23:26 PM): no it wasnt like that before the bang party
Wackbag (11:23:42 PM): wackbag and OA.com were the same
oauncensored (11:23:52 PM): is it true there was some kind of beef between you and steve c?
Wackbag (11:24:01 PM): no
Wackbag (11:24:16 PM): I just met steve recently
oauncensored (11:24:30 PM): never had a problem with foundry in the past?
Wackbag (11:25:42 PM): Actually there was, It was a misunderstanding .. I emailed steve to see if he could give me a link on foundry and he sent me a price sheet
oauncensored (11:26:24 PM): did he send froy one?
Wackbag (11:26:35 PM): I dont know
oauncensored (11:27:10 PM): whats was the going rate for a link to a message board on foundry back then?
Wackbag (11:27:25 PM): i later understood that he didnt know wackbag was a O&A fan site
Wackbag (11:27:39 PM): i really dont remember
oauncensored (11:28:47 PM): going later in time on OA.com, did you have run ins with the mods there?
Wackbag (11:29:09 PM): no with a member
Wackbag (11:29:43 PM): any time I posted, Crybabyhowie would bash me
oauncensored (11:29:58 PM): what did he bash you about?
Wackbag (11:30:24 PM): anything, just wanted to bash, I wasnt the only one
Wackbag (11:30:39 PM): then gooch followed
Wackbag (11:31:08 PM): gooch wanted to be crybabyhowie so bad
oauncensored (11:31:23 PM): what did gooch bash you about?
Wackbag (11:31:32 PM): I think they both became mods later on
Wackbag (11:31:54 PM): you name it, He just cursed me out whenever i posted
Wackbag (11:32:34 PM): there was still no problem between the boards at this time
oauncensored (11:33:04 PM): after bang party, when OA.com got as ugly as you say, some people came over to wackbag. who were they?
Wackbag (11:33:58 PM): I dont remember... lots of them
oauncensored (11:34:39 PM): italian princess?
Wackbag (11:34:46 PM): yes she joined
oauncensored (11:34:59 PM): opak?
oauncensored (11:35:08 PM): faceman?
Wackbag (11:35:20 PM): yes wow This is going way back
Wackbag (11:35:32 PM): both
oauncensored (11:36:00 PM): did sean and gonzo come over at that time?
Wackbag (11:36:06 PM): yes sir
oauncensored (11:36:48 PM): and they eventually became moderators?
Wackbag (11:37:26 PM): Gonzo became a moderator... Sean became a mod much later
oauncensored (11:37:58 PM): were they good moderators?
Wackbag (11:38:40 PM): Gonzo was an excellent mod, sean was only there because he was gonzos friend And I liked gonzo
oauncensored (11:39:14 PM): gonzo says thanks
oauncensored (11:39:15 PM): ha
oauncensored (11:39:26 PM): (he doesnt want to interrupt)
Wackbag (11:39:27 PM): it was good times
oauncensored (11:40:01 PM): eventually sean had a falling out with you over gooch, what happened?
Wackbag (11:40:59 PM): gooch had always cursed me out on the oa.com board, I would always tell him to say it to my face.. He said he had no problem with that
Wackbag (11:41:24 PM): I went to a WWF oa.com party
Wackbag (11:41:45 PM): I met gonzo and sean and a lot of OA.commers
Wackbag (11:42:10 PM): the next day I heard gooch was there the whole time
Wackbag (11:42:36 PM): I made a post on OA.com about it, it was quickly edited by opack
Wackbag (11:43:06 PM): I still have the thread between me and gooch that continued on wackbag
Wackbag (11:43:21 PM): I never threatened gooch like he said
oauncensored (11:43:24 PM): it started on oa.com?
Wackbag (11:43:30 PM): yes
Wackbag (11:43:36 PM): My post was edited
oauncensored (11:44:07 PM): why did opak edit it?
Wackbag (11:45:10 PM): dont know... I will copy and paste the original post unedited that I posted on wackbag while talking to gooch
Wackbag (11:45:31 PM): we couldnt talk on oa.com cause opack was up my ass
oauncensored (11:45:42 PM): you can send it to me later if you want
Wackbag (11:45:51 PM): posted 01-14-2001 02:16 AM
oauncensored (11:46:51 PM): were you going to try and post it now?
Wackbag (11:46:56 PM): The Gooch was there? I was there all night! I wonder why he didn't come up to my face and talk shit, since in earlier threads I had said that if he had something to say to say it to my face.
Wackbag (11:47:02 PM): It was then edited to:
Wackbag (11:47:09 PM): I promised to ignore opieanthony.com and they would ignore me...[This message was edited by opak on 01-14-01 at 01:51 AM.]
oauncensored (11:47:14 PM): ha
oauncensored (11:47:25 PM): was opak friendly to you on wackbag?
Wackbag (11:47:42 PM): I kept that thread to prove I didnt threaten anyone
Wackbag (11:48:10 PM): I really dont remember, just remember he was up my ass that night
oauncensored (11:48:58 PM): did gooch ever threaten you?
Wackbag (11:49:08 PM): no
oauncensored (11:49:20 PM): what drove you to post that?
oauncensored (11:49:40 PM): some might construe that as a veiled threat to gooch
oauncensored (11:49:57 PM): or a promise actually
Wackbag (11:50:56 PM): he was cursing me out for months, I had told him many times that he wouldnt say that off the internet and in person, he said he'd have no problem saying anything he said on the board to me in person
Wackbag (11:51:19 PM): therefore my post
oauncensored (11:51:24 PM): and how did sean get involved?
Wackbag (11:52:05 PM): I dont know his reasons, he jumped in the thread with me and gooch
Wackbag (11:52:23 PM): got that post to
oauncensored (11:52:29 PM): this was while he was mod on wackbag?
Wackbag (11:52:35 PM): yes
Wackbag (11:52:45 PM): seans post out of nowhere was
Wackbag (11:52:56 PM): ypu know what? Fuck you and your site you fuckin tool! I don't fear a damn person! Take your shots when I quit this shitfest cuz you are acting like a child! I tried to be polite about it and I get hit with a vauge inuendo?
Wackbag (11:53:15 PM): wait first part didnt go thru
Wackbag (11:53:30 PM): first part...
Wackbag (11:53:41 PM): ypu know what? Fuck you and your site you fuckin tool! I don't fear a damn person! Take your shots when I quit this
Wackbag (11:53:43 PM): shitfest cuz you are acting like a child! I tried to be polite about it and I get hit with a vauge inuendo?
oauncensored (11:53:49 PM): same thing
Wackbag (11:53:58 PM): both came thru?
oauncensored (11:54:10 PM): same thing you posted before
oauncensored (11:54:21 PM): ypu know what? Fuck you and your site you fuckin tool! I don't fear a damn person! Take your shots when I quit this shitfest cuz you are acting like a child! I tried to be polite about it and I get hit with a vauge inuendo?
oauncensored (11:54:28 PM): you posted that twice
oauncensored (11:54:30 PM): is that it?
Wackbag (11:54:40 PM): sean: ypu know what? Fuck you and your site you fuckin tool! I don't fear a damn person!
oauncensored (11:54:47 PM): yeah i got that
Wackbag (11:54:53 PM): Take your shots when I quit this shitfest cuz you are acting like a child!
oauncensored (11:55:24 PM): ok i guess thats it
Wackbag (11:55:30 PM): whatever i dont know what went thu or not, doesnt matter
oauncensored (11:55:30 PM): you sent that 3 times
oauncensored (11:55:32 PM): moving on
oauncensored (11:56:17 PM): if it was all directed to gooch, why does sean say something about shots at him and innuendos?
Wackbag (11:56:30 PM): I have no idea
Wackbag (11:56:44 PM): thats what he jumped in with
Wackbag (11:57:23 PM): he then cleared out his forum witch was 98% posts by him
oauncensored (11:58:31 PM): so you couldnt figure out why he felt you were attacking him?
Wackbag (11:58:58 PM): nope never could understand that
oauncensored (11:59:19 PM): you had a falling out with gonzo soon after, is that right?
Wackbag (12:01:18 AM): Gonzo was a mod of about 4 forums, I thought that he "may" do the same thing sean did because he was seans friend so I demodded him... Back then i didnt have delete protection, nor was there a database to back up..
Wackbag (12:02:10 AM): I had no backup of the board and wanted to protect the board, I wasnt sure if gonzo would do anything or if sean would try to infuence him
Wackbag (12:02:42 AM): gonzo said he understood
oauncensored (12:03:11 AM): when he left you called him fredostyle, yet he never did anything, you just feared he might. do you think that was fair?
Wackbag (12:03:17 AM): but he slowed down coming by the board
Wackbag (12:03:29 AM): that was much later
Wackbag (12:04:09 AM): when he completly stopped coming by the board, I assumed he was on seans side the whole time
Wackbag (12:04:25 AM): I may have been wrong, I still dont know till this day
Wackbag (12:04:32 AM): just couldnt chance it
oauncensored (12:04:49 AM): but you removed him so he kind of had a reason to not come by, you showed you didnt trust him, that had to be a blow to your friendship.
Wackbag (12:05:12 AM): it was, and I'm pissed it happened
oauncensored (12:05:41 AM): do you regret it?
Wackbag (12:06:46 AM): regret what exactly?
Wackbag (12:07:45 AM): demodding gonzo?
oauncensored (12:07:48 AM): yes
Wackbag (12:08:31 AM): no, cause I'm still unsure if he would have emptied out his forum. I do regret that it cost me a friendship
Wackbag (12:09:11 AM): my first priority was the board that I had 2 years into at the time
oauncensored (12:09:33 AM): do you regret saying this "fredo is very jealous of this board since i stripped him as a mod, and banned him for being a fencejumper, follower, and all around basic two face in the fredostyle"
Wackbag (12:10:16 AM): that was a reply to a post gonzo made on OA.com
oauncensored (12:11:30 AM): what did gonzo ever do that led you to suspect he might empty his forum?
Wackbag (12:11:31 AM): Gonzo can jump in here if he wants
ZippyAidsFace (12:12:08 AM): only to say I wouldn't have emptied the forum if it makes any difference.
ZippyAidsFace (12:12:14 AM): but thats all in the past now
Wackbag (12:12:26 AM): he didnt do anything, he was closer with sean than me and sean was very influential..
Wackbag (12:13:08 AM): It was a really hard decision
Wackbag (12:13:22 AM): that took me a few days to make
ZippyAidsFace (12:13:42 AM): In the end what sean did was a scumbag move, I agree. As well as yes I was very close to sean but I wouldn't have done what he did cause it's a shitty and childish thing to do.
ZippyAidsFace (12:14:07 AM): and in the end sean turned out to be a fuck anyway but continue the interview, thats all I gotta say.
oauncensored (12:14:12 AM): i think its apparent that sean and gonzo didnt always see things eye to eye
oauncensored (12:14:19 AM): but we will move on
ZippyAidsFace (12:14:37 AM): at the time though we did in a way cause of our friendship.
ZippyAidsFace (12:14:43 AM): so I dont blame sting
Wackbag (12:14:47 AM): How was I to know? voicechat was gone at that point and I couldnt realy talk to you,
Wackbag (12:15:05 AM): AIM didnt have the same effect
ZippyAidsFace (12:15:16 AM): I completely understand, seriously its water under the bridge
Wackbag (12:15:21 AM): couldnt sense someones feelings by text
oauncensored (12:16:01 AM): you had a friend named Taz, correct?
Wackbag (12:16:14 AM): I did tell you in aim, gonzo what i just said here
Wackbag (12:16:23 AM): yes
oauncensored (12:17:05 AM): what was his relationship with sean like?
Wackbag (12:18:07 AM): they didnt have one as far as I know, taz wasnt an O&A fan... I believe he replied to one of seans posts one night
Wackbag (12:19:06 AM): he was like you guys, he like to argue on the internet
Wackbag (12:19:11 AM): liked
Wackbag (12:20:28 AM): how long is this interview?
oauncensored (12:20:47 AM): i still have ground to cover, you want to finish another time?
Wackbag (12:20:56 AM): I still have time
oauncensored (12:21:02 AM): ok
oauncensored (12:21:15 AM): so did taz and sean have some sort of arguement?
Wackbag (12:22:03 AM): he replied to one of seans posts on oa.com, I dont remember the content
oauncensored (12:24:04 AM): then why did you mention his name in a post to sean?
Wackbag (12:24:06 AM): ?
Wackbag (12:24:31 AM): sean was in voice chat with him once
oauncensored (12:24:50 AM): so you knew they had beef
oauncensored (12:25:01 AM): you said so in your post
Wackbag (12:25:32 AM): sean said "I dont care if taz id bigger than me" I said take it up with him
oauncensored (12:27:05 AM): you dont know where sean lived?
Wackbag (12:28:01 AM): no
Wackbag (12:28:17 AM): I knew he lived in pelham bay
oauncensored (12:28:50 AM): but he knew where you lived?
Wackbag (12:29:04 AM): not that I know of
oauncensored (12:29:27 AM): you dont know anything about the note on seans door?
Wackbag (12:29:37 AM): I met him once at the WWF party
Wackbag (12:29:54 AM): no, only heard about that on your site
oauncensored (12:30:44 AM): taz also lived in the bronx, no?
Wackbag (12:30:53 AM): last I heard from sean, he sent me an IM saying happy thanksgiving a few years back, I wasnt at my computer to respond
Wackbag (12:31:04 AM): taz lived in florida
Wackbag (12:31:21 AM): he moved to the bronx after that
oauncensored (12:31:49 AM): ok since we are short on time, lets fast forward to the present
Wackbag (12:31:57 AM): wait
oauncensored (12:32:02 AM): sure
oauncensored (12:32:06 AM): continue
oauncensored (12:32:12 AM): i have time, i just dont know if you do too
Wackbag (12:32:17 AM): why does gonzo say I had a note put on someones door?
oauncensored (12:32:20 AM): i dont want to hold you up here all night
oauncensored (12:32:23 AM): gonz?
Wackbag (12:32:25 AM): thats simply not true
oauncensored (12:32:27 AM): comment?
ZippyAidsFace (12:32:36 AM): I never said you did
ZippyAidsFace (12:32:41 AM): I said Taz did
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Wackbag (12:33:24 AM): How would taz know where sean lives? #2 taz wouldnt put a note on an old ladys door
Wackbag (12:33:45 AM): hes not that type of guy
ZippyAidsFace (12:34:08 AM): Well sean claimed there was a note on his door and it was from Taz. I never claimed you had anything to do with it, just that he was your friend and he and sean had an argument.
Wackbag (12:34:30 AM): I first heard about it last week
Wackbag (12:34:56 AM): i doubt taz would do that, he's not really a fighting type of guy
ZippyAidsFace (12:35:29 AM): Well he and sean had some pretty heated arguments, then taz did a post on OA.com just a week before the note was put on seans door.
ZippyAidsFace (12:35:45 AM): it was a post mocking sean, me and mikey x for whatever reason.
Wackbag (12:36:35 AM): I cant speak fo any of that cause I didnt know about it, but taz is the last person I could see having the balls to walk into someones property
ZippyAidsFace (12:36:35 AM): which was strange cause you and mikey were pals
Wackbag (12:37:11 AM): mikey and taz were friends, thats how I met taz
ZippyAidsFace (12:37:14 AM): well to clear the air, I never accused you of doing anything nor even knowing it was done.
Wackbag (12:37:28 AM): thats all I wanted to clear up
ZippyAidsFace (12:37:30 AM): which was why I found him mocking mikey along with sean and me to be weird
Wackbag (12:37:34 AM): thank you gonzo
ZippyAidsFace (12:37:36 AM): no prob
Wackbag (12:37:59 AM): they had a falling out years ago
Wackbag (12:39:01 AM): ok lets move on now that that's cleared up
oauncensored (12:39:04 AM): ok
oauncensored (12:39:14 AM): tell me your thoughts about how oa.com went down
Wackbag (12:39:38 AM): of why it went down?
oauncensored (12:40:17 AM): how and why
Wackbag (12:41:24 AM): My feelings are you cant have a message board where people run wild and the mods are worse than the wild members.. It never works. I've seen tos of boards go down in different topics for the same reason
Wackbag (12:41:34 AM): tons
oauncensored (12:42:48 AM): but the reason the board was shut down was because the owner was friends with one of the guys on the show
Wackbag (12:43:25 AM): I had no knowledge of that, I didnt read OA.com for the last year it was up
oauncensored (12:43:31 AM): heck, he was even a moderator on the board along with his girlfriend
Wackbag (12:43:58 AM): again, I wasnt there for that
oauncensored (12:44:17 AM): do you think its a wise decision for the owner of the site to be so close to the show?
Wackbag (12:44:38 AM): I dont think it makes a difference
oauncensored (12:45:02 AM): what if the show is upset with something on the site?
Wackbag (12:45:17 AM): oa.com was bound to go down, you could see that years before it did
Wackbag (12:45:57 AM): there was no structure
oauncensored (12:46:18 AM): what if the show was upset with something on your site?
oauncensored (12:46:29 AM): would you feel the need to do something about it?
oauncensored (12:46:36 AM): or remain impartial?
Wackbag (12:47:00 AM): that would depend on if it fell within our rules or not
oauncensored (12:47:30 AM): what if it didnt?
oauncensored (12:47:48 AM): it was something outside of your rules that the show felt they wanted you to remove?
oauncensored (12:47:59 AM): does the show dictate how you run your board?
Wackbag (12:48:16 AM): Then the decision would rest on the mods and I
oauncensored (12:48:41 AM): what about my second question?
Wackbag (12:49:07 AM): nobody dictates how the board is run except for the wackbag staff
oauncensored (12:49:44 AM): so if the staff disagreed with something the show demanded you do, you would tell them you won't do it?
Wackbag (12:51:09 AM): why do you think the show would demand anything of us? they have never talked to us in any way on how the board is run or the content of it
oauncensored (12:51:30 AM): im asking the question as a hypothetical
oauncensored (12:51:48 AM): if they asked and the staff disagreed, would you tell the show you will not do it?
Wackbag (12:52:25 AM): It would depend on what was asked, then the staff would make a decision
oauncensored (12:52:38 AM): you are dancing around my question
Wackbag (12:52:47 AM): I dont dance
oauncensored (12:52:53 AM): and if the staff made the decision
oauncensored (12:52:59 AM): and it was against what the show asked
oauncensored (12:53:05 AM): would you tell the show you wont do it?
Wackbag (12:53:19 AM): last decision come down to me
Wackbag (12:53:26 AM): comes
Wackbag (12:53:59 AM): I cant tell you what I would or wouldnt do without knowing the subject matter
oauncensored (12:54:27 AM): is there any chance you would not grant the show their wish?
Wackbag (12:54:45 AM): BTW do you understand we are a O&A FAN Site?
Wackbag (12:55:30 AM): You guys seem to be against the show you supposedly like
oauncensored (12:55:31 AM): can you answer my question?
Wackbag (12:55:36 AM): i did
oauncensored (12:55:40 AM): no you didnt
Wackbag (12:56:06 AM): quote: I cant tell you what I would or wouldnt do without knowing the subject matter
oauncensored (12:56:56 AM): and im giving you a case where you decided you did not want to grant their wish
oauncensored (12:57:06 AM): would you disobey their wishes?
oauncensored (12:57:22 AM): assume the subject matter caused you to say no
Wackbag (12:57:24 AM): I would have to know what the wish was before any decision could be made
oauncensored (12:57:47 AM): im telling you that this is a case where the decision was no
oauncensored (12:57:56 AM): would you disobey their wish?
oauncensored (12:58:11 AM): and the decision was yours ultimately
Wackbag (12:58:39 AM): what the hell are you talking about?
oauncensored (12:59:14 AM): ill put it in the simplest terms i can
oauncensored (12:59:18 AM): show comes to you
oauncensored (12:59:23 AM): you decide no
oauncensored (12:59:27 AM): do you disobey them?
Wackbag (12:59:33 AM): why would they come to me?
oauncensored (12:59:45 AM): theres some content on the board they dont want there
oauncensored (12:59:56 AM): and you don't wish to remove it
oauncensored (1:00:15 AM): do you disobey their orders?
Wackbag (1:00:22 AM): I dont see how that could happen in the first place
oauncensored (1:00:46 AM): so theres no case where you would ever disobey an order from the show?
oauncensored (1:00:54 AM): regarding content?
Wackbag (1:01:09 AM): I dint say that either, it would depend on the situation
Wackbag (1:01:58 AM): I cant give you an answer to a situation that has yet to happen
oauncensored (1:02:18 AM): the show is based on cringe, why does the board try to maintain such a clean atmosphere?
Wackbag (1:02:49 AM): A radio show and a message board are two completly different things
oauncensored (1:02:54 AM): how so?
oauncensored (1:03:08 AM): if the message board is based on said radio show
Wackbag (1:03:14 AM): the show doesnt translate well to text
oauncensored (1:03:23 AM): can you explain that to me?
oauncensored (1:03:40 AM): the spirit of the show doesnt work on a message board?
Wackbag (1:03:53 AM): you actually dont know what I mean?
oauncensored (1:03:58 AM): if the show doesnt translate well to text, whats the point of the message board?
Wackbag (1:04:41 AM): Its for fans to gather and talk about the show.. just like any other message board on any topic
oauncensored (1:05:09 AM): so you expect fans of a cringe radio show to act like nuns?
Wackbag (1:05:30 AM): you think they act like nuns? I dont see that
oauncensored (1:05:33 AM): why are some topics off limits then?
Wackbag (1:05:42 AM): read the FAQ
oauncensored (1:06:19 AM): why does wackbag have a reputation for being so heavy handed and overly censored?
Wackbag (1:06:54 AM): because other message boards chose to make that reputation
Wackbag (1:07:42 AM): ask them why
oauncensored (1:07:57 AM): spaz was once a member of the show and many people liked him, why can't he be discussed?
Wackbag (1:08:18 AM): He's dead to the show and dead to the board
oauncensored (1:08:37 AM): but there are people who want to discuss him, why won't you allow them to?
Wackbag (1:08:54 AM): who want to discuss him? only you
oauncensored (1:09:00 AM): not at all
oauncensored (1:09:09 AM): plenty of people do
Wackbag (1:09:48 AM): he left the show 4 years ago. who would want to discuss him
oauncensored (1:09:59 AM): he's a very controversial figure
Wackbag (1:10:15 AM): he is?
oauncensored (1:10:21 AM): you're kidding right?
Wackbag (1:10:48 AM): I think he's just a moron who left a top rated radio show to work at burger king
oauncensored (1:11:14 AM): do you fear that the board stop getting plugs cause Anthony would get upset if you allowed people who were fans of Spaz to discuss him?
Wackbag (1:11:19 AM): why is he so important to you?
oauncensored (1:11:29 AM): he's important to many fans of the show
Wackbag (1:11:41 AM): I dont see that
oauncensored (1:12:01 AM): do you fear that the board stop getting plugs cause Anthony would get upset if you allowed people who were fans of Spaz to discuss him?
Wackbag (1:12:55 AM): spaz has been discussed before on wackbag, look thru the archives, We dont ask for plugs
Wackbag (1:13:25 AM): only he was relevent back then
oauncensored (1:13:29 AM): what about newer listeners of XM who never heard O&A on WNEW. Spaz was very amusing on the show and they may want come across some of his old stuff and want to discuss it with current members?
Wackbag (1:13:48 AM): send them to OAvirus.com
oauncensored (1:14:11 AM): why not on wackbag?
Wackbag (1:14:26 AM): we dont have audio on our site
oauncensored (1:14:26 AM): cause of Anthony?
oauncensored (1:14:36 AM): no, if fans want to discuss him
oauncensored (1:14:39 AM): not hear his bits
Wackbag (1:14:49 AM): I've never even spoken to anthony
oauncensored (1:15:03 AM): but you know about the issues he had with Spaz, don't you?
oauncensored (1:15:11 AM): and what happened with OA.com ?
oauncensored (1:15:24 AM): you're not ignorant to that, are you?
Wackbag (1:15:56 AM): I would be ignoant if I didnt know about oa,com?
oauncensored (1:16:46 AM): you don't know what happened with Spaz and Anthony's girlfriend?
Wackbag (1:17:33 AM): dont care to know, not my business
oauncensored (1:17:57 AM): Psycho Mark hasnt been relevant for almost as long, would you allow people to discuss him?
Wackbag (1:18:02 AM): why are you obsessed with anthonys personal life?
oauncensored (1:18:11 AM): why arent you answering my questions?
Wackbag (1:18:31 AM): cause your asking stupd questions
oauncensored (1:18:38 AM): you know all about this stuff, you are dancing around my questions
oauncensored (1:18:49 AM): you put rules in place because of them
oauncensored (1:19:06 AM): im asking the questions everyone has for you
Wackbag (1:19:07 AM): this stuff is important to YOU not me, or the fans of the show
oauncensored (1:19:21 AM): you wont answer it
oauncensored (1:19:24 AM): why?
Wackbag (1:19:28 AM): everybody? or the 12 of you
oauncensored (1:19:32 AM): do you fear the show will be upset with you?
oauncensored (1:19:48 AM): do you covet their acceptance?
Wackbag (1:19:52 AM): upset how?
oauncensored (1:20:29 AM): let me ask you a question you cant possibly have a problem with answering
Wackbag (1:20:40 AM): what acceptance? its a fan based message board
oauncensored (1:20:52 AM): psycho mark has not been relevant for almost as long as spaz, would you allow people to discuss him?
oauncensored (1:21:21 AM): is his name banned?
Wackbag (1:21:48 AM): I dont allo or disallow anybody from talking about the show as long as the follow the rules of the board
oauncensored (1:22:05 AM): ok, is spaz's name banned?
Wackbag (1:22:16 AM): yes it is
oauncensored (1:22:25 AM): is psycho marks?
Wackbag (1:22:32 AM): no hes a member
oauncensored (1:22:50 AM): why is spaz's name banned?
Wackbag (1:23:30 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
oauncensored (1:23:32 AM): if spaz was a member, would his name be unbanned?
Wackbag (1:23:47 AM): spaz is banned
oauncensored (1:23:51 AM): why?
oauncensored (1:24:38 AM): when was the last time psycho mark posted? he's as irrelevant as spaz.
oauncensored (1:24:48 AM): why the difference?
Wackbag (1:24:50 AM): I dont remember the circumstances, I dont even remember his screen name.. this is 4 year old stuff your talking about
oauncensored (1:25:37 AM): how is spaz any different from mark?
Wackbag (1:25:38 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
Wackbag (1:25:40 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
Wackbag (1:25:42 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
oauncensored (1:25:51 AM): why would they come say spaz?
Wackbag (1:25:52 AM): READ
oauncensored (1:26:08 AM): what reason would they have to come say his name?
Wackbag (1:26:09 AM): you can answer that one
oauncensored (1:26:12 AM): im not in a camp
oauncensored (1:26:20 AM): i dont even post on wackbag
Wackbag (1:26:24 AM): are you a member of CDIH?
oauncensored (1:26:27 AM): yes i am
oauncensored (1:26:43 AM): you can say anything you want on CDIH, its completely uncensored
Wackbag (1:26:51 AM): Do you have any knowledge of CDIH members trolling wackbag ?
oauncensored (1:26:55 AM): nope
Wackbag (1:26:59 AM): liar
Wackbag (1:27:07 AM): your full of shit
oauncensored (1:27:11 AM): you think CDIH sponsors trolling wackbag?
oauncensored (1:27:15 AM): you must be paranoid
oauncensored (1:27:25 AM): most people there could care less
Wackbag (1:27:35 AM): Ive seen them talk about it in the chatroom with you in it
Wackbag (1:27:45 AM): its on you "blog"
oauncensored (1:27:51 AM): they do think you are full of shit cause you deny knowing the reason why spaz's name can't be mentioned
Wackbag (1:28:29 AM): it cant be mentioned on wackbag because its against the rule both the mods and I made
oauncensored (1:28:42 AM): you are hysterical
oauncensored (1:28:47 AM): you should be a lawyer
Wackbag (1:28:54 AM): really
oauncensored (1:28:55 AM): why did you make that rule?
Wackbag (1:29:20 AM): how many ways can you ask the same question?
oauncensored (1:29:30 AM): how many ways can you not answer it?
Wackbag (1:29:35 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
Wackbag (1:29:37 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
Wackbag (1:29:39 AM): It is censored because of trolls.. mostly from your camp that come to wackbag just to say spaz
Wackbag (1:29:42 AM): READ IT
Wackbag (1:30:23 AM): English motherfucker, can you read it?
oauncensored (1:30:30 AM): and why would they do that?
Wackbag (1:30:42 AM): you can answer that one
oauncensored (1:30:52 AM): i can?
Wackbag (1:30:57 AM): your doing it right now
oauncensored (1:30:58 AM): why would i be able to answer that?
oauncensored (1:31:11 AM): whats so wrong with me saying spaz?
oauncensored (1:31:21 AM): you seem to have a problem with it
Wackbag (1:31:38 AM): do I have to post the same answer again?
oauncensored (1:31:51 AM): is there something wrong with me saying it here?
oauncensored (1:31:57 AM): im not on wackbag right now
oauncensored (1:32:07 AM): are you going to ban me?
Wackbag (1:32:29 AM): ban you from aim?
oauncensored (1:32:35 AM): for saying spaz
oauncensored (1:32:45 AM): does it upset you?
Wackbag (1:32:46 AM): are you an idiot?
oauncensored (1:32:54 AM): im asking cause its a banned word on wackbag
Wackbag (1:33:04 AM): and I gave you an answer
oauncensored (1:33:22 AM): and you said i would know why
oauncensored (1:33:29 AM): why do you think i know?
Wackbag (1:33:47 AM): you have just spent 10 minutes on the word spaz
oauncensored (1:33:58 AM): are you afraid the same thing that happened on oa.com would happen on wackbag?
Wackbag (1:34:08 AM): wont happen
Wackbag (1:34:38 AM): we dont bash each other
Wackbag (1:34:53 AM): or put newbies down
oauncensored (1:34:58 AM): so if anthony came to you
oauncensored (1:35:02 AM): you would do whatever he told you
Wackbag (1:35:08 AM): or have mods that think their god almighty
Wackbag (1:35:36 AM): I read the behind the scenes forum... the mods thought they were god
oauncensored (1:35:44 AM): do you know your mods put each other down outside of the board?
oauncensored (1:35:48 AM): and bash each other?
Wackbag (1:36:13 AM): as long as its outside the board I dont care
oauncensored (1:36:47 AM): what about mods putting you down?
Wackbag (1:37:17 AM): Thats fine as long as we work as a team on the board.. which we do
oauncensored (1:38:15 AM): how would you prevent them from doing something FTL did?
oauncensored (1:38:39 AM): when someone posted something on the board the show didnt want people to see, he posted it and locked the doors.
Wackbag (1:38:48 AM): whats FTL?
oauncensored (1:39:00 AM): history. learn it or be doomed to repeat it
Wackbag (1:39:22 AM): I run the board, I code it, I run the server I'm not froy
oauncensored (1:39:31 AM): if you want to prevent a OA.com, you should probrobly know what happened
oauncensored (1:40:01 AM): can i throw a few names at you and get your first impression that comes to mind?
Wackbag (1:40:03 AM): arent you forgetting to ask me about mouspads and donations and shit?
oauncensored (1:40:09 AM): don't care
oauncensored (1:40:13 AM): $500?
Wackbag (1:40:14 AM): Gotta take a leak BRB
oauncensored (1:40:23 AM): ok
Wackbag (1:41:36 AM): back pookie
oauncensored (1:42:47 AM): ok doll
oauncensored (1:42:54 AM): can i do word association?
oauncensored (1:43:04 AM): then im gonna wrap up, its late and we should get some sleep
Wackbag (1:43:10 AM): i guess but I'm not good at it
oauncensored (1:43:13 AM): ok
oauncensored (1:43:14 AM): froy
oauncensored (1:43:21 AM): dont think too hard
oauncensored (1:43:26 AM): rapid fire if you can
Wackbag (1:43:27 AM): dont know him
oauncensored (1:43:30 AM): gooch
Wackbag (1:43:35 AM): moron
oauncensored (1:43:37 AM): gonzo
Wackbag (1:43:46 AM): I like gonzo
oauncensored (1:43:47 AM): sean
Wackbag (1:43:53 AM): the past
oauncensored (1:43:55 AM): diab
Wackbag (1:44:07 AM): bipolar
oauncensored (1:44:17 AM): DIG
Wackbag (1:44:22 AM): dont know him
oauncensored (1:44:38 AM): YMB
Wackbag (1:44:48 AM): new oa,com
oauncensored (1:44:52 AM): CDIH
Wackbag (1:45:00 AM): gonzo
oauncensored (1:45:04 AM): oa.net
Wackbag (1:45:20 AM): fu wackbag thread
oauncensored (1:45:27 AM): foundry
Wackbag (1:45:33 AM): steve
oauncensored (1:45:38 AM): FM Jeff
Wackbag (1:45:53 AM): cool guy, recently met him in person
oauncensored (1:46:00 AM): OAAWITE / Galt
Wackbag (1:46:21 AM): asspipe
oauncensored (1:46:24 AM): mavric
Wackbag (1:46:40 AM): next
oauncensored (1:46:44 AM): SLASH
Wackbag (1:46:48 AM): dont know him
oauncensored (1:47:00 AM): faceman
Wackbag (1:47:04 AM): dont know him
oauncensored (1:47:09 AM): italian princess
Wackbag (1:47:19 AM): dont know her
oauncensored (1:47:25 AM): kid afrika
Wackbag (1:47:42 AM): problems in the past, cool now
oauncensored (1:47:45 AM): howard stern
Wackbag (1:47:56 AM): Funny in the past, Lame now
oauncensored (1:47:59 AM): sirius
Wackbag (1:48:05 AM): dont care
oauncensored (1:48:07 AM): xm
Wackbag (1:48:10 AM): 202
oauncensored (1:48:17 AM): FM radio
Wackbag (1:48:32 AM): havent listened in a year
oauncensored (1:48:39 AM): opie
Wackbag (1:48:54 AM): Down to earth
oauncensored (1:48:56 AM): anthony
Wackbag (1:49:07 AM): Great voices
oauncensored (1:49:12 AM): $500 donation
Wackbag (1:49:56 AM): thats a whole story do you want to know it?
oauncensored (1:49:59 AM): sure
oauncensored (1:50:00 AM): shoot
Wackbag (1:51:31 AM): I was driving in manhatten with my friend, heard O&A announce they need people to donate money for the granf prize for the girls.. I parked the car and donated... I was one of about 12 people who donated the prize money
oauncensored (1:52:17 AM): they couldnt afford to pay the girls themselves?
Wackbag (1:52:36 AM): wnew would not put up the money
oauncensored (1:52:44 AM): what about O&A?
Wackbag (1:52:51 AM): i dont know
oauncensored (1:53:01 AM): you make more money than they do?
oauncensored (1:53:11 AM): then?
Wackbag (1:53:26 AM): no, why
oauncensored (1:54:12 AM): well seems pretty lame for them to have fans pony up money
Wackbag (1:54:28 AM): Iv'e spent $500.00 in bars back in the day...
Wackbag (1:54:33 AM): no big deal
oauncensored (1:54:36 AM): not the same thing
Wackbag (1:54:41 AM): why?
oauncensored (1:54:55 AM): cause they're asking fans to pay for their bit
Wackbag (1:55:06 AM): It was for the girls
oauncensored (1:55:23 AM): do you ever disagree anything opie and anthony have done?
Wackbag (1:55:28 AM): yes
oauncensored (1:55:32 AM): like?
Wackbag (1:56:06 AM): I got pissed when they ripped stalker pattis wig off and ran
oauncensored (1:56:16 AM): why?
Wackbag (1:56:24 AM): I felt bad for her
oauncensored (1:56:41 AM): but not anyone else they have exploited?
Wackbag (1:56:51 AM): not really
oauncensored (1:57:20 AM): two more names
oauncensored (1:57:22 AM): melinda
Wackbag (1:58:04 AM): dont know her
oauncensored (1:58:08 AM): spaz
Wackbag (1:58:15 AM): Idiot
oauncensored (1:58:45 AM): sting, you have been more than gracious with your time, i really appreciate you allowing me to ask you so many questions
Wackbag (1:58:53 AM): wackbag is a site by the fans and for the fans, our rules keep things flowing and Im happy to have made a place that people can go to.
oauncensored (1:59:01 AM): good job
oauncensored (1:59:15 AM): thanks again man, im wiped out, im going to bed
Wackbag (1:59:33 AM): maybe one day youll realize
oauncensored (1:59:48 AM): no we just see thing a different way
Wackbag (2:00:07 AM): But I dont knock you for your view
oauncensored (2:00:13 AM): im a listener
oauncensored (2:00:15 AM): you're a fan
oauncensored (2:00:18 AM): theres a difference
Wackbag (2:00:30 AM): so am I I'm also a fan
Wackbag (2:00:49 AM): I only listen to 2 hours of the show a day
oauncensored (2:00:56 AM): sure you do, you think i should worry about the shows feelings
oauncensored (2:01:03 AM): and what i say might affect them
oauncensored (2:01:16 AM): you knock every person who comes to your board by censoring them
Wackbag (2:01:36 AM): has nothing to do with the show, its about a fan site, where fans can enjoy themselfs
oauncensored (2:02:07 AM): your board has its purpose to do what the show says to do
oauncensored (2:02:12 AM): and play nice with the show
oauncensored (2:02:26 AM): thats your view of how to do things, and i have mine
Wackbag (2:02:33 AM): I dont knock anyone, if they break the rules and get banned they desevr it
oauncensored (2:02:47 AM): can we talk off the record?
Wackbag (2:02:50 AM): I dont know Opie or anthony
Wackbag (2:03:15 AM): so How do I do what the show says if I have no contact with them?
oauncensored (2:03:24 AM): opie and anthony are public figures, i have no problem talking about their personal lives
oauncensored (2:03:33 AM): they talk about peoples personal lives everyday on the show
oauncensored (2:03:44 AM): they're like stern the way they tell people not to talk about them
Wackbag (2:03:45 AM): I do, I put myself in thier place
oauncensored (2:03:51 AM): the talk about sterns daughter
oauncensored (2:03:58 AM): and her juicy tits
oauncensored (2:04:02 AM): her jew tits
Wackbag (2:04:14 AM): stern is completly different, O&A are down to earth
oauncensored (2:04:17 AM): but the fact that spaz once got a blowjob from melinda is an issue?
Wackbag (2:04:22 AM): bye
(2:04:23 AM) Wackbag has left the room.
- sblueman - 01-07-2005
Boy he sure knows how to dance around a question......
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
I have no idea what or where these sites are...
But banning a name from being mentioned is hystericly pathetic.
- Keyser Soze - 01-07-2005
sorry freddie, i forgot to ask about nirtydigger.
- HollywoodJewMoses - 01-07-2005
you sure did.
- Gooch - 01-07-2005
keyser....fantastic job. as the heat went up, Stingray danced like a monkey. I'm sure he's convinced that those answers are clear as a bell as he backpedaled himself in saying that things like mentioning Spaz is a mod decision. And makes himself very disconnected to the show. What about Mavric chatting and emailing Opie everyday, promoting Wackbag??? That is a show connection....and Stingray dodges this by saying "he doesn't speak or interact with O&A"...and he hides behind his other mods who are VERY connected. Furthermore...he simply cannot argue with the Spaz stuff, he just stubbornly refuses to admit that they make decisions to placate the show or to placate their own fears of pissing them off. But instead, Stingray rationalizes and hides behind: mod decisions. Those decisions are very based on making sure they are not pissing off the show in any way. If you have noticed anything about Wackbag's mods....they overreact to everything, and are super-reactive, not proactive...and that is b/c there is a clear mindset of his mods to make sure nothing gets posted that will have the show up in arms. And the buck has to stop at the top...b/c his mods just don't have enough individuality and identity to be able to make decisions on their own. Have you ever seen one of them actually debate something with Stingray???
Stingray reads as OA.com mods thought they were god. Look, everyone has their opinion, but I think OA.com mods cared and were very much individuals with identity and some brains...and they tried. They weren't afraid to argue with Froy, or others, to make a point or bring something up. I think Stingray mistakes this kind of intelligence as something dangerous and problematic. And I have a big problem with that narrowmindedness and ignorance. Stingray likes followers....and if you don't follow....you an enemy. This has been clear from very early on.
I would also like to address my issue with Stingray. First off, I did not curse him out. While Howie would do his little "meatflaps, pus and whater" insults...I actually tried to take Stingray to task on the issues themselves. You all know that I have never descended to "cursing out"...but Stingray would dismiss or not get that it was a debate, and then get threatening. "Say it to my face!" and other veiled threats where he let me get so far under his skin, that he missed or would never argue or take up any point...and just react angrily to each an every post. My point, which he never ever understood, is that ANYONE i had a debate or argument with, I would still shake their hand and talk to them in person...b/c in the end it IS just a messageboard and merely some text on a website. But he would get himself into such a lather over it.
When I was at the WWF NY, it was one of the first times I ever came out. Stingray did show later on, and went straight back to hang with some people he knew near the back. He never came to hang with the group of OA.com people, and it wasn't clear who he was, it wasn't till later when Sean told me..."hey, Bri, that's Stingray". He also didn't stay the eve, or it was at the point of the party winding down. Now, at the time, I had a huge feud PR, b/c he was another one who simply could not follow or keep up in an argument, but would slam the site. He and In shook hands and spoke at the next one. To me, always, the board is just a board, and I told PR straight out that I didn't like his tone and post, and chose to take him up on it. Nothing personal. Stingray and PR never ever understood, and Stingray still doesn't...that things said online, especially a heated debate, does not mean one hates the other, or that it should become some sort of confrontation. Had I been introduced to Stingray, or walked up to him, feeling that he could be above that silliness, I would have shook his hand, and told him: you are a real ass online...and told him why. I never shy away from saying what i think when asked. And I have never agreed with anything FM Jeff did online on OA.com, yet I met him and hung out with him a bunch of times...and I think he's a good guy in real life. But, when he did something i disagreed with (eg: trying to delete OAWITE on OA.com) I made sure he knew what I thought of it. Just because I argue or debate does not mean I dislike. I never understood when others could not make the seperation.
So back to Stingray threatening me...the threat was clear that he wanted a confrontation in person. Point was: it was so stupid and overwrought. And I tweaked him on it incessently, b/c Stingray just could not grasp the silliness and stupidity of such an overreaction. And it's him not grasping these points, along with points of people that don't like Wackbag, that does him a real disservice. Look at his own reactions in that interview when points are made...he doesn't grasp how they look or anything on a deeper level. There is a dogged stubborness that is just laughable...and i think he's just incapable to get the irony of certain things...and gets all in a twist over it.
- HollywoodJewMoses - 01-07-2005
from now on, im going to refer to you as "Bri"
- Rooner - 01-07-2005
Wow, I dont know if Ive ever read such delusion. That guy really thinks he is something important. Amazing. I guess some people really take this message board shit pretty serious. Thats scary.
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
I can't believe how seriously everyone takes this shit.
- Rooner - 01-07-2005
Its my life. I cant help it. Its all I have.
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
You could be doing something more useful..
Like looking for tsunami survivors.
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- Rooner - 01-07-2005
Im so ashamed.
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
Don't worry too much. I'm sure a significant number of potential terrorists were wiped out.
- Keyser Soze - 01-07-2005
stingray actually asked for witnesses to be present so that he could ensure that i didnt twist his words around later on. he asked for a chatroom with 2 of his buddies in it, who would remain silent the entire time.
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
Did they all wear their storm trooper suits to show solidarity?
- Rooner - 01-07-2005
Keyser Soze Wrote:stingray actually asked for witnesses to be present so that he could ensure that i didnt twist his words around later on. he asked for a chatroom with 2 of his buddies in it, who would remain silent the entire time.Thats really, REALLY sad. That he thinks he is that important.
- Hoon - 01-07-2005
This is the same type of idolization that will eventually turn to hatred and either Antony or Opie will end up like Dimebag Darell, compliments of WBK.
- The Sleeper - 01-07-2005
will there be a Q&A?
- Keyser Soze - 01-07-2005
im going to try and set one up
- GonzoStyle - 01-07-2005
I had to leave at like 1:30AM, I should stayed the extra 30 mins to see him really have a meltdown. When I was sending keyser questions I wanted him to ask sting I wanted to ask about nirtydigger but he woulda just said "don't know him" or called him a troll.
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