Cops and their fucking quotas suck. - Are we the citizens the victims?

[Kid Afrika]

Were you never young?

I've had tinted windows on just about every car I've owned. And, well to be honest, when you drive around like an idiot and you're in a car with tinted windows, you ARE going to get pulled over a lot.

I got a lot of tickets when I was younger, but always for bullshit and rarely for speeding. The bullshit tickets are the easiest to get out of, but sometimes just paying them off is better than the ticket you could've gotten.

Getting a 2 point ticket for doing 130mph on rt.18 should be proof enough that if you handle the situation correctly, most cops are pretty cool.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I haven't gotten a moving violation ticket since 1995. Mainly because I go to court and plead them down to non-moving violations.

The beauty is, although they are more expensive fines, you save more money in the long run because you're not paying surcharges to the DMV and insurance, etc. etc. It's pretty much a legalized bribe between you and the town saying, "let's keep this our little secret."

[Teenweek]

Just thank god you aren't black. Probably would have beat you senseless or shot you. :rofl: :fuggin:

[Tenbatsuzen]

I thank God I'm only half-black. Well, from the waist down, anyway...

[Brokenjaw]

Not to mention that my insurance will now go up.

Jack, your insurance will not go up fpr any of the tickets you got. Your insurance will only go up if..

A. You are in an accident and it's your own fault
B. You are speeding and get cought
C. If you don't pay your insurance in time, and get it canceled by theinsurance company.

[DoughBoy]

Couple of questions:

1. How did he know that your address needed to be changed?
2. What did he pull you over for, as far as I know broken mirror and seatbelt violations are NON-moving violations and you cannot be stopped for that.

I speed EVERYWHERE. I average 95mph on rt. 18 EVERY day, twice a day. I'm young, shaved head, loud music and tinted windows. I don't get pulled over. As long as you keep the maint. up on your car, pay attention to everyone around you (if the guys in front of you are stepping on the brakes, there is prolly a cop), and are polite if and when you get pulled over, you should RARELY get a ticket.

Senior year in High my freind and I were in his car. We were racing at 2am. In a 89 mustang, hatchback, tinted windows, skinnies up front. After doing a HUGE burnout and racing, the cop behind us turned on his lights (he was following a little back the whole time completely blacked out). Pulled us over, made us get out, on the ground. Turns out we were doing 142 in a 40. Got wreckless driving. Went to the police station the next day, spoke to the cop, downgraded it to careless. Went to court a few weeks later, cop ok'd the downgrade once more to Impeding the flow of traffic (no points) and 130 bucks. All because we were curteous and respectful.

[Luna]

2. What did he pull you over for, as far as I know broken mirror and seatbelt violations are NON-moving violations and you cannot be stopped for that.

That's not true....at least not in NYC.

[DoughBoy]

I'm talking Jersey. Fuck New York's laws. Fuck them right in the ass!

[Kid Afrika]

Actually, you can now be pulled over for no seatbelt in jersey. You can also be pulled over for talking on a hand-held phone.

[DoughBoy]

Since when Kid? That must be new. I know about the phone... but that is only in certain towns that have passed the law. My roomate is a state trooper, I'll have to ask him..

[Kid Afrika]

2 AM in a residential area doesn't seem all that risky, polly.

I think that there are safe places and safe times to speed. I would agree that 4:30PM is not a good time to be doing 140 in 40. But, 2AM is another story.

I also think that had it happened at 4:30PM, they probably would've had to walk home.

[Is Don on the phone?]

Getting a 2 point ticket for doing 130mph on rt.18 should be proof enough that if you handle the situation correctly, most cops are pretty cool.

You are absolutely right. Be cool, don't disrepect the officer, answer questions honestly (but not in great detail unless asked for details) and keep the PBA cards where they are visible but not in the officer's face. I know a highway patrolman who will only respect a PBA card if he sees it on his own. If you whip it out like a "get out of jail free" card, he'll write you up anyway. And on the flip side, he has let people off if he believes they are being honest-he tells a story about a guy in a Mustang 5.0 who, when asked why he was speeding, answered "I like to drive fast." He was told to slow it down and have a safe night.

Keep in mind that like many of us, the officer has a job to do. Your responsiblity is to operate a safe motor vehicle in a responsible manner, and he or she is there to ensure that this happens. If you are in the wrong, no matter how minor, take your beating like a man and move on. It's not personal for them, it's business, just another day at the salt mines. And yeah, my friend in highway is a prick sometimes, just like the rest of us. He's human above all.

[Kid Afrika]

PBA cards are only good for getting out of trouble when you haven't really done anything. If you really fuck up, and then try to flash a PBA card, you are an Asshole.

You use a PBA card to get out of bullshit tickets, not tickets that you deserve. Although, if you are really a relative, especially immediate family, it's another story. But, if you get one from a friend of a friend and use it for something you know you did wrong, you are just asking for trouble. The last thing you need is for the cop who signed it to say, "I don't know who that is." In which case, you would be royally fucked.