04-19-2002, 08:27 AM
Quote:arpi, i'm dissappointed in you. the people who've posted in this thread definitely don't appear to be attacking the jews, or supporting the palestinians. i understand that it's a very emotional subject, but for you to call them and/or their parents "jew haters" is just fucking ridiculous.
And to that let me add a hearty FUCK YOU! :fuckoff: :fuckoff: :fuckoff:
Anybody see the FOOTAGE of 70 dead including children lined up for mass burial? Anybody see the wide shots of entire neighborhoods leveled? Anybody see the family of 8 that was in their home when it collapsed on top of them? Only two were pulled alive form the rubble two days later when rescuers were finally allowed into the area.
And contrary to international law, civilians were NOT allowed to flee out of the combat zone. Only from one combat zone to another. Combined with the complete denial of any humanitarian aid, this was an atrocity.
Of course the Palestinians have inflated the numbers. Of course Arafat's a terrorist. But that does not justify the combined punishment of ALL Palestinians.
And your surprised the news media went with the most sensationalistic interpretation of what they were able to hear and see? I'm not. That's why I take NOTHING in the media at face value.
And as for this unbeleivable isolationist movement I see here: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?
Have you LOOKED at the stock market lately? Do you have any grasp of how interconnected the world really is today? You can not allow a major conflict to go on in the world without having a major impact on the rest of the world.
The US has only two options:
1. Pull back all aid to Isreali and do nothing. Then they'll ALL be dead before the years over. Isreali will run out of food, ammo, etc. and be overwhelmed by being attacked form all sides and then Isreali will use it's nuclear arsenal and the entire Middle East will be a radioactive wasteland. Just hope the prevailing winds aren't blowing over any other populated areas.
2. Use every piece of leverage the US has, force Isreali out of the occupied territories and replace them with US/UN peace keeping troops who will secure a Palestinian state and remove Arafat from power along with every other known terrorist and replace them with a legitimate governement. Take over and treat them like Afghanistan.
Polite doplomacy will not work. We've been trying it for decades.
And just to fill you in on Sharon, he is well known for his complete support of the extremists Isreali's who have settled in the middle of the occupied territories, displacing (bulldozing) Palestinian communities, because they believe it's their God given right to all of Isreali. The extremists settlers are a HUGE problem to any peace process.
Come on Arpi. Got any balls left to debate or are you just going to come in and call me an anti-semite for having an opinion that differs from Isreali policy? :fuckoff: