Is this trade fair?

[Sir O]

This thread reminded me of a shitstorm in my league that I was at the center of...one of those public private leagues on yahoo where half the people give up after the first month. I figure someone will get a laugh out of this. My team is WMDs, and this happened in March right after we drafted.

I need an upgrade at shortstop!!!
by: Irish Friars

I am a huge white sox fan but i need another shortstop i am willing to deal make me an offer

He drafted Valentin, but wanted an upgrade. Simple enough.

Irish Friars
by: WMDs
Send me an offer for Jeter

I had Nomar, Jeter, and Reyes, all of whom were healthy at that point. I was also weak at RP, because I always wait til late to draft closers.

WMD's
by: Irish Friars

I will give you foulke for jeter striaght up

Awesome! Just what I need!

horrible trade
by: Red Sox Nation

i would hang on to foulke if i were you

Who are you, his daddy?

yeah...
by: Georgia Bulldogs

im gonna have to agree

foulke is way more valuable than Jeter's pussy ass
by: yourmomisawhore

yeah, you heard me, i called him a pussy

An enlightened viewpoint, that was.

The trade is vetoed.

You people are retarded
by: WMDs

Top five SS for top five RP. Buncha babies...

Despite the veto, I was once again offered Foulke for Jeter. Once again, I accepted.

Top 5?
by: Georgia Bulldogs

A-Rod, Garciaparra, Tejada, Furcal, Reterria, Berroa, Reyes... Man, and thats without even stopping to think. Jeter is the most overrated player in baseball over the last 10 years.

Jeter is better than
by: WMDs

Furcal, Berroa, Reyes. He's a consistent .300+ hitter and good for around 20 HR, 20+ SB, 120 runs scored and decent RBI numbers. Furcal has had one good season and one other decent one. Reyes and Berroa are still too young and unproven to be ranked among the top SS's.

And I'm a Mets fan who despises the Yankees, but how anyone can't see this is true is beyond me.

Look, Friars needs a SS and I need pitching. It's that simple. If one of you Red Sox fanboys wants Foulke I'll be more than happy to entertain offers for him. I probably need a solid starter more than a closer anyway. Then everybody gets what they want, rather than vetoing any trade you might think is even slightly lopsided. Christ, it's Derek Jeter, a perennial All-Star, not Rey Ordonez...

A voice of reason:

re:veto
by: Hominy

I think it should be used to protect us all from cheaters, he has 2 good SS and one is dispensible and since he has both of them that means someone is short a SS, it was a deal that some obviously didnt like, but that doesnt mean it was unfair.

One dope sees the light:

come on
by: Georgia Bulldogs

Ya'll, the veto is really only designed for trades that are rediculously unfair.... Although i disagree with this trade, lets just let it go. THese guys really want it, and it wouldnt make anything TOO unfair.

But not all are convinced:

veto
by: 2

Foulke was chosen in the third round and Jeter in the seventh. That sounds pretty unfair to me

The converted responds:

dude
by: Georgia Bulldogs

honestly though, the draft order doesnt mean anything... thats all personal opinion and strategy.

2, question for you
by: Hominy

So if I offer say Javy Lopez for Mike Sweeney are you saying that would be a veto'd trade also since Javy had one good year and I drafted him much higher than Sweeney was drafted?? Are you also saying that all of the pitchers who were drafted ahead of Johan Santana are more valuable and will have better seasons?? Make sure you take a step back and think about your answer before responding..better example, I picked Contreras in the 12th round and Larry Walker was picked in the 8th, your theory states that I would be getting a great bargain where I assume that most would think that Contreras is much more valuable than Larry Walker. Looking forward to your thoughts..

Trade is vetoed a second time.

In all my years playing fantasy ball
by: WMDs

I've never before seen such a display of collective stupidity. What is this, the no-trading league? Who cares where they were drafted, the draft is just the beginning, people deal and add/drop to fill their needs. That's the fun part of fantasy leagues, or at least it's supposed to be. As the season progresses I guarantee you'll see some mid to high draft picks being cut from rosters and traded for free-agent pickups.

In 2167 live ESPN.com drafts, Jeter has been going at an average position of 30, Foulke at 36.

MLB.com (the official site of Major League Baseball) has Foulke ranked the #5 closer and Jeter the #5 SS in their fantasy rankings.

Sportsfanatics.net has Jeter the #4 SS and Foulke the #3 closer.

Fantasybaseballcafe.com has Jeter the #5 SS and Foulke the #5 closer.

Baseballdocs.com has Jeter ranked #26 overall and Foulke #55.

Nobody's getting ripped. We both get what we need. Both players have similar value. And no I don't think it's the end of the world, I just don't see the point in vetoing a trade that obviously benefits both teams involved.

....
by: Georgia Bulldogs

Amen... let the trade go and lets all move on

Trade is offered and accepted a third time...

Quit whining
by: yourmomisawhore

you could've had Smoltz, so quit bitching, i won't vote against your trade, but if i here another sound from your pussy, don't expect to get my votes in the future

*my response to this was deleted*

wtf?
by: yourmomisawhore

are you angry that the league won't let you make your team even better than it is, maybe you should quit crying and start making a different deal, and by the way, you have an open invitation to my naughty spot, just make sure you wash your hands

yourmomisawhore
by: Red Sox Nation

you're an idiot

The trade is finally allowed through...and I'm currently in first place with a 15 game lead...