09-19-2004, 08:02 AM
SO much wrong here...
98?
2001-2003 were all better.
Bullshit.
Babe Ruth is the only one to ever dominate as both pitcher and batter.
Look...Babe Ruth was as good as any other pitcher at the time. He probably would've won the Cy Young in 1916 had the award been given out then, but whatever; he was an incredible pitcher, as good as HOF'ers Walter Johnson, Grover Alexander, Christy Matthewson...he just hit the ball so damn well, they needed him every day.
Babe was a great hitting pitcher, but no, he didn't play the OF on his days off. His first few years with the Sox he only hit when he pitched...1918 they realized his bat was too valuable to sit 3/4 of the time....
Quote:98 and 2004 are Bonds's best seasons thus far
98?
2001-2003 were all better.
Quote:For anyone that played baseball, you know that most of the time, the guy who was the best hitter on the teach was also a real good pitcher, and ace pitcher was normallly a great hitter.
Darren Driefort is someone I remember who did that in college. He was both one of the best pitchers and best hitters in the nation when he was in college.
For the guy on the field who is the most skilled as Ruth obviously was, it's not uncommon for them to be able to dominate on both sides of the ball.
Bullshit.
Babe Ruth is the only one to ever dominate as both pitcher and batter.
Quote:Pitchers that can hit is just one of the things I love in baseball. To be able to do both at once, you can win a game and carry the team with you. Bill James has that book, Win Shares, where he goes into orgasms over his statistical ananlysis and comes up with a method to determine how much of one winning game can be attributed to a player. It includes pitching and batting, so, I would imagine that there were seasons when Ruth was able to make the largest contributions to winning than any other player ever.
Look...Babe Ruth was as good as any other pitcher at the time. He probably would've won the Cy Young in 1916 had the award been given out then, but whatever; he was an incredible pitcher, as good as HOF'ers Walter Johnson, Grover Alexander, Christy Matthewson...he just hit the ball so damn well, they needed him every day.
Quote:Pitchers that can hit is just one of the things I love in baseball. To be able to do both at once, you can win a game and carry the team with you. Bill James has that book, Win Shares, where he goes into orgasms over his statistical ananlysis and comes up with a method to determine how much of one winning game can be attributed to a player. It includes pitching and batting, so, I would imagine that there were seasons when Ruth was able to make the largest contributions to winning than any other player ever.
Babe was a great hitting pitcher, but no, he didn't play the OF on his days off. His first few years with the Sox he only hit when he pitched...1918 they realized his bat was too valuable to sit 3/4 of the time....