11-25-2005, 03:35 AM
helton is a poor example because he played most of his career in colorado.
if the teams that carlos has played for have not been playoff contenders it is not for lack of production from his bat, his numbers have consistantly been among the best in baseball. your comments are mere conjecture and based in nothing more than your perception. my arguement is based on hard cold facts of ortiz and delgado's actual production.
Three year averages...
Ortiz, 75 runs, 139 hits, 31 HRs, 105 RBIs, 59 walks, .289 avg, .366 OBP
Delgado, 98 runs, 145 hits, 36 HRs, 117 RBIs, 93 walks, .284 avg, .403 OBP
Delgado has a signifigant advantage in runs scored, RBIs, walks, and most importantly on base percentage.
I'm not even saying Delgado is better than Ortiz, even though I could based on those numbers. At the very least based on their production you have to come to the conclusion he is as good if not better than Ortiz.
if the teams that carlos has played for have not been playoff contenders it is not for lack of production from his bat, his numbers have consistantly been among the best in baseball. your comments are mere conjecture and based in nothing more than your perception. my arguement is based on hard cold facts of ortiz and delgado's actual production.
Three year averages...
Ortiz, 75 runs, 139 hits, 31 HRs, 105 RBIs, 59 walks, .289 avg, .366 OBP
Delgado, 98 runs, 145 hits, 36 HRs, 117 RBIs, 93 walks, .284 avg, .403 OBP
Delgado has a signifigant advantage in runs scored, RBIs, walks, and most importantly on base percentage.
I'm not even saying Delgado is better than Ortiz, even though I could based on those numbers. At the very least based on their production you have to come to the conclusion he is as good if not better than Ortiz.
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