Baseball hot stove talk - Offseason talk about any and all teams

[Rookie]

Unfortunately, Clemens will be a Yankee next year. Steinbrenner sees his 300th win as a money making adventure. The same goes for Godzilla. He'll be in pinstripes and making around $12mil/yr. Not because he's worth that as a player, who knows how he will perform in the majors, he has no major league experience. No, he'll be signed because Steinbrenner will make money on new Japanese Yankee fans, and advertising in Japan.

Unfortunately, it looks like the extra money paid to these two clowns will leave no room for Pettitte who will most likely be traded.

Cashman said, "Cutting payroll is the focus right now."

Yeah right.

[PollyannaFlower46]

You'd think we would've learned from Irabu. I REALLY don't want to see Pettitte go, or Clemens return, but when was being a Yankee fan ever about getting what you wanted?

[Teenweek]

According to the papers today, there is a good chance Clemens might go to Texas. Fuck him. I hope he does leave, you money hungry bitch. Keep Pettite

[Galt]

You've got to be kidding. He's a money hungry bitch? And Mussina and Giambi are playing for what, exactly?

However, Clemens is a douche. He left Boston saying he was driven by either winning a championship or being closer to Texas. So he signed for the last place team in Canada. Everyone in Boston loathes him. Welcome to the club.

Billy Beane makes me so wet. I have a feeling that Beane will clean house over the next five years. Nomar will probably retire with the Sox, but I can see Manny and Pedro getting traded for younger players who don't make a ton of money like he was doing in Oakland. Plus, he will finally replenish the Sox's putrid minor league system which has made it impossible to bring in any good players during the trade deadline other than the ones who are salary dumps.

[HollywoodJewMoses]

As for Franco, he still thinks he can pitch.

why?
he's soooo old now
i think he'd make a great pitching coach though

[Teenweek]

Beane is staying in Oakland

Sorry Galt. :banana:

[Galt]

Yeah, I just heard that from one of my friends.

It happened a while ago. Why am I just seeing this link now, Teenweek?

[Teenweek]

Because I really don't care about Boston.

[PeterDragon]

Because I really don't care about Boston.

How could you say you don't care?
What about that Bucky Dent poster you have in your house? :burnfucker:

[PollyannaFlower46]

Because I really don't care about Boston.

I care about Boston...Boston losing :lol:

[PeterDragon]

Well, today's story everywhere is that Drew Henson should go back to football.
How long does George stick with him?

Start of Free Agency period and it seems everyone thinks it will be a down market.
Only active team seems to be Phillies, which should make DIG happy.

[HollywoodJewMoses]

mitch williams :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[PollyannaFlower46]

How long does George stick with him?

Cause he's cute :loveya:

[Teenweek]

Let him go QB for the Giants

[PollyannaFlower46]

But I don't understand football and no one will teach me.

[Teenweek]

Polly, this is hte best comparison between football and baseball

by George Carlin
Baseball is different from any other sport, very different. For instance, in most sports you score points or goals; in baseball you score runs. In most sports the ball, or object, is put in play by the offensive team; in baseball the defensive team puts the ball in play, and only the defense is allowed to touch the ball. In fact, in baseball if an offensive player touches the ball intentionally, he's out; sometimes unintentionally, he's out.

Also: in football,basketball, soccer, volleyball, and all sports played with a ball, you score with the ball and in baseball the ball prevents you from scoring.

In most sports the team is run by a coach; in baseball the team is run by a manager. And only in baseball does the manager or coach wear the same clothing the players do. If you'd ever seen John Madden in his Oakland Raiders uniform,you'd know the reason for this custom.

Now, I've mentioned football. Baseball & football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values.

I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!

[PollyannaFlower46]

That didn't help at all...now baseball seems like a pansy game.... :clueless:

[Goatweed]

Carlin rocks! :thumbs-up:

[PollyannaFlower46]

:bouncer: :bouncer: Andy is staying :loveya:

[krahzee]

Andy is staying

Not Necessarily.

There is some concern about his elbow as well as his overall durability. With Clemens (he will resign), Hitchcock, Weaver, Mussina, and Wells, they would have enough starters without him. It all depends on if they resign Clemens.

Right now all they did was pick up his option. He still might be traded for something they need, like a strong setup man who can close if Rivera gets hurt again. Remember Stanton & Mendoza are both free agents. If one walks they will need a replacement. It would be easier to trade Petite than almost all of the above because:

a) he has a year left on his deal (the option)
b) he is young enough that another team may feel it has a shot of signing him to a longer deal before that one expires.