Categorizing music - Is it really necessary?

SLASH · 03-08-2002, 07:08 PM

Quote:I see your point more clearly now. Overanalyzing it however defeats the purpose. ITS ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL!

"..And the couple in the corner
They're the reason why I hate... Rock and Roll
'Cause Rock and Roll... is dead
Is dead... is dead... is dead..."

- Artist withheld out of fear that Facey will accuse me of pushing their cd :roflmao:

Lord Magus · 03-08-2002, 07:11 PM

I think a better way to put it is to use the word "forced".. by I see what you're getting at

SLASH · 03-08-2002, 07:17 PM

Does this mean that one of your buddies are gonna steal your new bitch from ya Magus? This is such a fuckin' travesty!

Lord Magus · 03-08-2002, 07:34 PM

Wiseass

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 03:01 AM

Quote:Of course, there is no label-name for music that is made with passion, with creativity and originality, which has energy and life and is on the run with breaking new ground musically and artistically. There is no label for musicians who lay more importance on their musical vision and their artistical integrity than on sales plans, marketing-tools and the plans of their record-company. And there never will be. Because, after all, these are the things the listeners are looking for in a genre as well. Why did Kyuss sell a lot of records and Roadsaw only a few? Because Kyuss had something that other bands couldn’t offer, even though they were working in very closely related musical style. See, that is just the point. A labelname is there to help the listener find a band that sounds like another band he has found that he liked. Yes, that is also a marketing-tool, but it makes things easier for you, the audience. We need the labels. If I just told you that this guy is highly original, very creative and I really like what he does, and you buy the record and realise, the guy is plinking on an acoustic guitar with chains and brushes, you might be angry at me. If I used the term avantgarde-guitarist just once, you would have been warned. That is why musical styles get names.

To note: I stopped complaining about musical filing some time ago. Some keep on saying, the music is important, not the name you give to it. But: there is no existence without a name. If it doesn’t have a name to be called, it doesn’t exist. Even “nothing” is conceivable only because it has a name. Yes, that is well philosophical. Wittgenstein, I have read the guy. Secondly: genres are made to be filled. An idea once thought can’t be pushed back again. (see above). Thirdly, I don’t want to listen to every record there is to find what I like. I want someone to give it a name, so I can find it. And I have to trust the reviewers to give it the correct name. (That is my ethos as a reviewer.) Example: Sum 41 sounds like Blink 182. Do I have to write a whole paragraph? Writing about music is like dancing a theatrical piece anyway, but it is fun.

The above was taken from this article... WHATEVER HAPPENED TO STONER-ROCK?

Not to flattering, Spit. It has direct quotes from former Monster Magnet founding member John McBain, which they say may contribute to his leaving Magnet before they hit big, and QOTSA's Josh Homme .<font color=#EEEEEE>

Edited By SLASH on Mar. 10 2002 at 10:05

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 05:00 AM

SLASH Wrote:"..And the couple in the corner
They're the reason why I hate... Rock and Roll
'Cause Rock and Roll... is dead
Is dead... is dead... is dead..."

- Artist withheld out of fear that Facey will accuse me of pushing their cd :roflmao:

Matthew Ryan?

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 05:05 AM

You tell me.

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 05:14 AM

Matthew Ryan!

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 05:18 AM

Who? I can't hear you!

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 05:19 AM

MATTHEW MOTHERFUCKIN RYAN!!!1!

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 05:37 AM

You seem very passionate about this Matthew Ryan guy, I think I am gonna check him out. Thanks!

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 05:39 AM

I'm all about the alt.country!! I recommend "Railroaded" and "Sadlylove".

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 05:54 AM

Railroaded

Great beat and vivid imagery. One can't help to be drawn into the setting.

'It's a perpetual stone in my shoe, one that I will always be tryin' to shake loose.' 'We're as pathetic as the jumper that listens to the crowd.' 'More than a scratch beneath the skin...'

Sadly love

Another one. Great beat. The listener feels as though they are dropped into the middle of the story...

'Angry and sad over a cup of black tea, your watery eyes and perfume were choking me' 'Sadly love, I never really let you in. I need your little hands to hold my expression'. It was 1 bedroom with a dog and a thorn, I remember thinking about dad as I was walking out the door.'

Good find, my brother, good find.

alt.country, huh? Nice genre!<font color=#EEEEEE>

Edited By SLASH on Mar. 11 2002 at 12:57

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 05:58 AM

SLASH Wrote:alt.country, huh? Nice genre!

It's no emo.

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 06:02 AM

The Sleeper Wrote:
SLASH Wrote:alt.country, huh? Nice genre!
It's no emo.

Well shit no, Emo-Core is where it's at. No doubt.

Ever hear of a band called 'Thursday'? It's some of the best Emo out there, these days. Well besides Fugazi, of course.

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 06:09 AM

SLASH Wrote:Well shit no, Emo-Core is where it's at. No doubt.

Ever hear of a band called 'Thursday'? It's some of the best Emo out there, these days. Well besides Fugazi, of course.

Yea, Thursday is that band that sounds kinda like The Cure. I hear they put on a pretty good live show too.

And I liked Fugazi better when they were called Minor Threat and had an edge to them.

AdolescentMasturbator · 03-11-2002, 06:10 AM

SLASH Wrote:Ever hear of a band called 'Thursday'? It's some of the best Emo out there, these days. Well besides Fugazi, of course.

Well emo is no glam.

The Sleeper · 03-11-2002, 06:11 AM

AdolescentMasturbator Wrote:Well emo is no glam.

and glam is no SALSA!!

SLASH · 03-11-2002, 06:13 AM

Yea, I heard that seeing 'Thursday' on a Thursday is a totally surreal experience.

True, AM, Bowie is a GOD!

AdolescentMasturbator · 03-11-2002, 06:16 AM

Yes hail the ziggy stardust.