gun control

[Keyser Soze]

they also carried muskets in those days

[Galt]

Oh, I'm not for gun control. People have the right to buy and own as many guns as they want. But those that go overboard are pathetic in my mind. Just like those that overdo other legal, but destructive things like alchohol.

And Mad keeps referring to defending property, making military analogies, and other comments like he lives in a haven of crime.

The LA Riots? Where do you live? Queens? Long Island? Your family is probably (ergo, no sources to cite) statistically more in danger of being hurt by your own guns than any other entity.

[Gooch]

oh, by the way, the 2nd ammendment does not mean you get to carry a gun. It means you can take up arms against your oppressors. (remember the time that it was made). It has been mis-used and spun ever since so that some people can feel some sort of empowerment by owning a weapon to compensate for an inferiority complex.

The Six Things Americans Should Know

Stop stuffing your face with moon pies and read it. Maybe you'll learn something instead of spewing some rehashed liberal lies.

how can you ask me to not believe the "spin" and "lies" and then give me that schlock spun bullshit from a bunch of gun-loving kikes???????

[Mad]

I have lived in the "bad" part of town before.

Currently, I am living in a lily white suburban neighborhood. There are some people of color in the neighborhood, but considering what the price of homes are, I have no problems with them or any one else for that matter.

The fucking racist assholes next door however get all crazy at the sight of a black person walking down the street. They're true victims of fear.

You people act like I'm the only person in this country with these views. There are 65,000,000 other people like me. While most do not take it to the extreme that I do, they still believe the same things.

Get over the fact that I am right and you are wrong.

[Mad]

A. The unalienable right to freedom from violent harm, and the right to self-defense, both exist before and outside of secular government.

1. Torah: Exodus 22:2.

2. Talmud: Jewish law set forth in the Talmud states, “If someone comes to kill you, arise quickly and kill him.” (Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin. 1994, 2, 72a; The Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakoth. 1990, 58a, 62b).

3. Roman Catholic Doctrine: Christian doctrine has long asserted the right and duty of self defense. “Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow.” See Catechism of the Catholic Church 1994, sections 2263-65 (citing and quoting Thomas Aquinas).

4. Protestant Doctrine: Individual has personal and unalienable right to self-defense, even against government. Samuel Rutherford, Lex, Rex [1644] 1982, pp. 159-166, 183-185 (Sprinkle Publications edition.) Jesus advised his disciples to arm themselves in view of likely persecution. Luke 22:36.

Gooch, CITE YOUR SOURCES!!

[Black Lazerus]

the fact that you brought up black people shows that you fear us so much that you have 200 guns in your home.
You're a pussy just admit that.

[Keyser Soze]

mad sounds so full of fear

[Mad]

I fear no black person.

I've worked in many black community's and have only had problems with young gang banging punks. I suggest you go back to whatever "Pop" psychology course you took and demand your money back.

[Keyser Soze]

guns dont kill people, crazy people with guns kill people

[Galt]

There are 65 million gun owners? Or 65 million guns?
There are less than 300 million people in the country.
25% of them are under 18, and therefore can't own guns.
So a little more than 200 million adults.

Therefore 30% of the adult population owns a gun? I refuse to believe that. It's like the gay advocates say that 10% of the population is gay. No fucking way.

Every interest group inflates their numbers to make their cause seem more correct.

[Black Lazerus]

why did you mention blacks then?

[Gooch]

guns dont kill people, crazy people with guns kill people

nigger kill people too..don't forget them

[Mad]

Fast facts

65 million

People who own firearms in the U.S.

2.5 million

Times property owners use firearms against intruders every year


It's down about 3/4's of the way on the right side.

I would say that 65,000,000 is a little bit on the low side. There are over 300,000,000 firearms in this country with just under half of all homes having at least one.

[Gooch]

The 2nd Amendment was not put into the Constitution by the Founders merely to allow us to intimidate burglars, or hunt rabbits to our hearts’ content. The Founders added the 2nd Amendment so that when, after a long train of abuses, a government evinces a methodical design upon our natural rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. We have the right to not be oppressed, and can take up arms to do that. that does not mean we have a right to carry one 24/7, or make it easier to have a gun than get a drivers license or beer.

[Mad]

The 2nd Amendment was not put into the Constitution by the Founders merely to allow us to intimidate burglars, or hunt rabbits to our hearts’ content. The Founders added the 2nd Amendment so that when, after a long train of abuses, a government evinces a methodical design upon our natural rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. We have the right to not be oppressed, and can take up arms to do that. that does not mean we have a right to carry one 24/7, or make it easier to have a gun than get a drivers license or beer.

One more time, please Cite Your Source.

[Galt]

the NRA saying there are 65 million gun owners is like GLAAD saying that 10% of the population is gay. I refuse to believe it's that high.

Though I will conceded that whatever the actual number is, is way higher than I would think. The only person I know with a gun is my father; The thing is 30 years old and has never been fired.

[Gooch]

i'm the source. I'm telling you thats what it means.

[Mad]

why did you mention blacks then?

The only reason I mention blacks is because that is where I spent most of my time working.

I've had more problems in rich areas then in ghetto neighborhoods, then that's just my experience.

[drusilla]

i still don't understand the need for it

[Gooch]

it gets the bitches and ho's primed and ready when he handles his glock.