I love him. He's like those happy old people who become known for sitting by the side of a busy street and waving to passing cars. People drive by regularly and beep just to see him and get him to wave to them.
That's just like our Arpi... except he doesn't wave or anything. He just says mean things to you.
GonzoStyle Wrote:I pledge my undying love for Arpi, any retraction of this undying love is to be ignored.
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Shame on you CT. I know Arafat's a bad guy and all but all out war?
Seeing as this is a serious thread allow me to paint a picture. For the record, yes Israel is our friend and we stand behind our friends. That being said:
The Palestinians are a people, with no country, that are herded into ghettos under horrid living conditions. They are persecuted for their religious beliefs, looked down upon because of their ancestry, are limited to their freedom of movement, not allowed to start certain businesses and not allowed to accumulate massive wealth. There ghettos are invaded at will by uniformed soldiers that brake into their homes in the middle of the night, if they appear to pose a threat they are shot and their homes are bulldozed.
Ding ding ding, does this ring a fucking bell to any certain society that might live very close to these people??? Hello????
The last society that treated a civilization this way was eradicated from the world scene and is shunned by name to this day. Don't let history repeat itself. Find a moderate position to solve this before people never name their children Ariel again.
oas, in all seriousness, this current war broke out, while the palestinians were under palestinian control. they've been under the control of arafat since 1995, not the israelis. they blame this current war on the sharon gov't, but barak was pm when they began the fighting, not sharon.
for the last 2 weeks, the israelis ar being attacked from lebenon by hizbullah millitants. no other country has been attacked as mush as israel has, and in only 54 years. this is not a war of "occupation" they could've had a state 2 years ago. they are no different than hitler was, and in fact, the mufti of jerusalem durring the 1930's met up with hitler many times durring ww2.
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Cunt (God I just love saying that, hee hee...) I know it is complicated and both sides are equaly guilty. Israel is the democracy, the supposed voice of reason in the region. The Arabs have offered the olive branch. They may be lying but if Israel takes the first step and eventually the Arab's prove to the world they lied, just think how powerfull that will make Israel.
All the Palestinians want is freedom. The PLO was never in control of the palestinians. The PLO was only allowed to do what Israel has allowed them to do. Israel will not win in world opinion on this one. They will crush the Palestinians for now. They will only rise again meaner and more deadlier next time. Give them their freedom. Freedom, is it all that bad?
Believe me. I am not pro Palestinian and my political views naturaly align me with Israel. This is one Israel will not win.
OAS, you are so right. They cry about the Holocaust, but look at what they do toy the Palestinians. The Palestinians had there land taken away, by the United Nations and given to Israel, because it was once there. Guys you lost your land, deal with it.
Menachem Begin was a terrorist against the British, what makes him any different than the palestinians of today??:firebounce: :firebounce: :firebounce:
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i must disagree, where it might be true that the arab states have "extended" the olive branch, they are asking israel to go back to indefensible boarders. it is a fact that was taken up many times in the un, that the pre-67 boarders did not work for israels security. that is hardly peace. and sirya has yet to agree to that.
the palesitinian authority did rule over the palestinian people since 1995, not the israeli govt. in fact the palestinians were free to go where ever they damn well pleased until oct 2000. that is a fact that i personally can attest to, becuase i lived there for 2 years years (1997-1999).
here's an article, that i think can sum things up, nice.
Quote:-> Peaceful Coexistence in Efrat
> David Bedein
> 01 April 2002
>
> Why was the Arab suicide attack in Efrat different
> from all other suicide attacks? Because it was
> directed against the medical services that Arabs
> receive from the community of Efrat.
>
> Late in the afternoon of Sunday, March 31, 2002, which
> this year was both the fourth day of Passover and on
> Easter Sunday, an explosion rocked Efrat. My wife,
> typing away yet another e-mail to one of many
> corresponding women from the world over, looked around
> the living room to see that the children were okay and
> resumed her correspondence, including the boom she
> heard in her closing paragraph. Elchanon, our
> almost-sixteen year old son, who helps me in every
> aspect of my work, ran to the scene of the blast, cell
> phone in hand, stood on a hill overlooking the
> evacuation of the wounded so that he could report to
> me at the press center in Jerusalem. Our office was
> able to place the story on the wire services – and, of
> course, to Elchanon’s brother Noam, now a soldier on
> the Lebanese front.
>
> Elchanon’s first words said it all. This attack was
> different from all the other attacks. This time, an
> Arab blew himself up at the emergency mobile medical
> unit that dispatched medical staff to treat him. As
> the terrorist blew himself up, a medic that came out
> of the unit, Assaf Perlman, was riddled with shrapnel,
> sustaining injuries in his head and chest. Assaf is
> fighting for his life. Assaf is the same medic who
> risked his life at the Tomb of Joseph compound in
> October 2000 to try and save the life of an Israeli
> soldier, Madhat Yusef, who ultimately bled to death in
> Assaf’s arms. Five other paramedics were also hurt,
> including Elchanon´s tenth grade classmate, Netanel,
> whose parents, old friends of mine, came from New York
> to settle in Efrat.
>
> After many threats, this attack was clearly aimed
> against Efrat´s policy of providing medical services
> for the two Arab villages that are contiguous to
> Efrat. As a matter of policy, the Chief Rabbi of
> Efrat, Shlomo Riskin, raised substantial funds from
> liberal Jews for medical clinics and schools in these
> nearby Arab villages. It was a policy that earned the
> wrath of Arafat´s Palestinian Authority. Rabbi Riskin
> made such a policy decision in the spirit of the
> Torah, which states 36 times that a non-Jew who lives
> at peace with you in the Land of Israel must be
> treated with dignity, respect and service.
>
> In Januray, without warning, Channel One of Moscow
> filmed footage in the Arab villages near Efrat,
> expecting to hear stories about the ‘Israeli
> occupation’ and tensions between the small Arab
> village and the 16 expanding Jewish settlements of
> Efrat and the Etzion bloc. However, the Russian TV
> crew heard the opposite message. They heard only
> praise for the people of Efrat and the Etzion bloc of
> settlements and seething anger against Arafat and the
> “PLO occupation” of their fellow Palestinian Arab
> brethren in the Bethlehem region. Family after family
> in these Arab villages told Russian TV that they were
> getting the best medical treatment possible from their
> friends in Efrat, while their families in Bethlehem
> had to bribe officials just to get the basics of
> treatment from the PA. They also spoke with pride
> about the school that Efrat had built for them.
>
> All of this was aired on Russian TV Channel One very
> recently. It would seem that the PA was watching. The
> clear purpose of the recent suicide bombing attack was
> to disrupt the existing, proper relationship between
> the Jewish city and the nearby Arab villages. Yet,
> despite the threats to their lives from Arafat and the
> Palestinian Authority, the people of the Arab villages
> near Efrat gathered in an emergency town meeting to
> issue a statement denouncing the attack in the
> strongest of terms.
>
> It surprised nobody in those Arab villages that
> Arafat´s police force took credit for the attacks.
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> David Bedein is the Bureau Chief for Israel Resource
> News Agency in Jerusalem (IsraelBehindTheNews.com).
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Quote:i can't wait for all out war, it's coming, just sit back and wait!!
I don't know about you guys, but I'm so excited I could put a shoebox on my lap and do a puppet show.
They say may you live in interesting times...I guess we get that...right??? :confused:
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Quote:All the Palestinians want is freedom. The PLO was never in control of the palestinians.
oas, do you think the palestinian people will really be "free" in a palestinian state? they would be just as free as all the other arab people. if arafat wanted his people to be free, it would have been arranged. maybe you can answer me this, why is it that the palestinians living in jordan, iraq, saudi arabia, syria, and lebanon treated like the shits of society, and not given rights in those countries? when america won california, texas, new mexico and arizona from the mexicans, we didn't treat them like shit. we continue to aid mexicans in this country today. why is that the arabs can't help out their arab brothers, except in the distruction of israel?
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