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Spork
posted on 09-15-2001 @ 6:53 PM      
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Uhhhh, huh?

Since when was "radical" a term that was used exclusively to categorize the left or left-leaning causes?

Does this mean that radical pro-life protestors who murder abortion doctors can be seen as flaming lefties?

I don't think so!

"Radical" means "extreme" and that's what any country that is harboring terrorists can now consider itself.... oh that and obliterated.




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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-15-2001 @ 6:58 PM      
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quote:

"Radical" means "extreme" and that's what any country that is harboring terrorists can now consider itself.... oh that and obliterated.


So that means the U.S. is radical? Don't forget we harbored these same terrorists ourselves because they served foreign policy. Afganistan for example is a reactionary state.



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posted on 09-15-2001 @ 9:36 PM      
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Okay, terrific!

Afghanistan may be a "reactionary state" but so too may it be a "smoking parking lot" and "The country formerly knows as Afghanistan."

You're with us or you're against us. That's the foreign policy right now. If you're not with us, consider yourself an enemy.

The Taliban = Enemy
Any other non-co-operatives = Enemy





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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-15-2001 @ 9:45 PM      
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I want the taliban gone. This government is one of the most oppressive regimes in history. They rape and kill women for the smallest transgression. Do I want Afghanistan wiped off the face of the earth? No, that wouldn't be war that would be genocide to kill everyone in an entire country. Do I want the Taliban dead and gone? Hell fucking yeah.



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posted on 09-15-2001 @ 10:39 PM      
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Well, if it Afghanistan is wiped off the face of the earth to GET the Taliban then chalk up one in the "collateral damage" column.

Hey, I'm sure Afghanistan has plenty of beautiful rugged deserts and mountains that should be saved for eternity, but if for some reason it turns out that it all needs to be destroyed - oh well.

For those that do survive, they will be plenty grateful that the Taliban is out of there (and yes, their most heinous actions generally surround the treatment of women there - maybe we can ship over some C-blockers to go do the dirty work?)




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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-15-2001 @ 11:50 PM      
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The Taliban's atrocities are not limited to women. I would check human rights watch, or Amnesty International

But by the sounds of it you are suggesting carpet bombing. Are you sure about that?



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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:02 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
I am suggesting that military experts use whatever force they deem necessary, that's what I'm suggesting.

If it's carpet bombing, it's carpet bombing. If it's "light a bag of camel shit on fire and wait for them to come out of hiding to stomp it out" then I'm for that too.

Point is I will count myself amongst the "Pissed beyond reproach" crowd and say that if our tacticians wanted to even go nuclear on someone for this then they are welcome to do that too.

Oh, believe me, I understand the "Genie in the Bottle" the "Pandora's Box" arguments - sure - great - but you know what, killing over 5,000 innocent civilians in an unprovoked attack brings out the best in me that way. Genie or no genie, if they felt they need to go nuclear to end things more quickly then more power to them.

Remember how many lives (especially American lives) dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved. It brought an END to the war and an end to the killing.

I'm not suggesting that that should be their first option, but it's always an option.

I am not looking forward to any terrorists who want to try and step it up a notch and go NBC here (by that I don't mean a terrorist version of Tom Brokaw, but "Nuclear, Biological, Chemical").

So we let those who have been elected and appointed work their magic.




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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:08 AM      
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We should be careful to destroy just the targets we want and not civilians because then we will be just bringing up another generation that will hate America. And within that generation there will be a few nuts that will act on it.

quote:

So we let those who have been elected and appointed work their magic.


That's what scares me the most. The most corrupt people on the planet have this matter in their hands.



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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:12 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Riiiight. It would be much better if the socialists were running things right?

I wonder what President Nader's reaction to all of this would be?

I think he'd be trying to sue the World Trade Center lease managers for not equipping the building with airbags and parachutes.

Gimme a break! There's no better people on the planet to lead this war than the leaders of the free world - the government of the United States of America.

If civilians are harmed - oh well - that's a shame, but it's war. We didn't start this, but we WILL finish it.

The lesson this will be teaching is "It's probably not a good idea to grow up hating America."

People will always hate us because we are at the top. That's why a lot of people seem so vehemently opposed to Microsoft and other big companies. People at the bottom tend to hate the top.

So what would Adolescent Masturbator do if HE were President, eh? Would you engage in some economic sanctions? Some smart bombs perhaps? Maybe get a UN resolution condemning their actions?

Our leaders have this under control, and we will all be victiorous when this is done.




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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:21 AM      
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quote:

People will always hate us because we are at the top. That's why a lot of people seem so vehemently opposed to Microsoft and other big companies. People at the bottom tend to hate the top.


No why don't people hate Denmark or other European countries with higher standard of living than the U.S. This is a very complicated water. To simply to dismiss this to that they are jealous is pretty naive. The government can be quite interventionist all over the world. There are also a lot of other factors at work.

If I was in control I would give heavy support to the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan which no one seems to mention when talking about options. That way they get to power and poof no more Taliban. The Northern Alliance is recognized as the true government of Afghanistan by every country excluding Pakistan. Instead of obliberating Afghanistan off the face of the planet maybe we should focus on getting rid of the Taliban by giving support to the Northern Alliance. That seems like a more feasible solution than eradicating an entire country and it's people.



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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:33 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
So you want us to create another scenerio of Contra rebels?

Those Kurds sure did well against Saddam, didn't they?

Look, we can try and fund insurgent movements all we want, but the bottom line here is if you want to do something right, you have to do it yourself.

Once Afghanistan, and more properly the Taliban, is wiped out, then the other group can have Afghanistan.

From what I am seeing when I see pictures of Afghanistan it's not as though they're the epitome of natural beauty and serenity. That country has been at war for YEARS and YEARS now - for a generation that is all they know. A little extra to get the bad guys shouldn't be such a cross to bear.

This isn't time for a proxy war, our goal is to WIPE OUT terrorism and the states that sanction it and provide a hiding ground for these scum.

You have to know that we will do this and you have to know that those in power now will do it right.

Denmark and other European countries don't have a higher standard of living than the U.S., but again, they are not world leaders. Terrorists don't think to themselves that they can make a great statement if only they can terrorize Copenhagen!

Terrorists come after us because we believe in liberty and freedom, because we are an economic powerhouse, because we have a powerful armed forces. There are a number of reasons, but in so many categories we are at the top of the pile.

As a country we collectively wear that big-ass foam "We're #1!" finger and people are gunning for us.




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GonzoStyle
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:37 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

If I was in control I would give heavy support to the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan which no one seems to mention when talking about options.



Yeah well you aren't in control now are you? Get back to me when you are old enough to vote.


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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 12:45 AM      
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Actually, Taliban assinated the leader of that rebellion by have two assissins posing as journalists. They blew themselves up with the poor guy.

Taliban controls 90% of Afghanastan, and they have taken out their competition's leader.

adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:01 AM      
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And gonzo wins with the low blow.

quote:

Those Kurds sure did well against Saddam, didn't they?


That's because the government turned their back on them and broke the deal. The government never wanted Saddam out.

quote:

Look, we can try and fund insurgent movements all we want, but the bottom line here is if you want to do something right, you have to do it yourself.


I'm not saying funding them. I'm saying sending fighter jets to wipe out the taliban military. Therefore that means the opposition can gain power thru our actions of weakening the taliban to nothing.

You said carpet bombing would tell people not to hate America. I'd like to use an analogy. If someone beats me constanly as a child I will not grow up thinking it's a bad idea to hate the person that beat me. Quite the contrary.

Sure some civilian loss is inevitable but I don't think specifically targeting civilians is the answer.

Denmark and several other European countries have a higher standard but that's beside the point.

I say our first objective should be destroy Usama Bin Laden. Then attacking the Taliban will be the next objective. If we can't get Usama we demand that the Taliban give him up. If they don't we bomb Taliban military targets(political figures, military supply routes, etc.). If we focus on this we can weaken the Taliban extensively.



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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:04 AM      
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quote:

Denmark and several other European countries have a higher standard but that's beside the point.



Sure, but at what expense? Sweden does not allow immigration. They have a bunch of blonde haired blue eyed aryans running around. But yea, they make more per diem than America [sarcasm] so i guess they are better off [/sarcasm]

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GonzoStyle
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:04 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

If someone beats me constanly as a child I will not grow up thinking it's a bad idea to hate the person that beat me. Quite the contrary.



No but maybe it would have taught you some respect and when to shut the fuck up, lol. This is why times outs suck, beat your kids more i swear this is what happens they grow up too opinionated.


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Spork
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:05 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Why don't we just ask the Taliban to embrace socialism? That will bring them to ruin VERY quickly!

EVERY country in the world seems to "hate" the US to some extent or another, despite what we may have done for them.

Do we beat up Canada? Do you realize how many Canadians have complete and utter disdain for the United States and its people?

Fuck it, we're the United States of America. We do what's right and the rest can follow. That line of thinking makes this country great!

Haven't we been nice enough up to now for them to not do things like, oh, hijack four planes and attempt to smash them into monuments and public places with a success rate of 75%?






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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:23 AM      
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Why must it always be about Socialism? I decided it was one of those times that maybe I shouldn't be saying that Socialism is better.

quote:

Fuck it, we're the United States of America. We do what's right and the rest can follow. That line of thinking makes this country great!


Sure in theory it works but in practice it can become the contrary. This country has done a lot of fucked up things.

You condemned them for killing our civilians but then you turn around and suggest we do the same but at a higher rate? If we want to pound them into submission by killing civilians it will take a very high death count. These are people that declared holy war aganist america, have no regard for their own citizens, and are generally scum.



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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:29 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
The terrorists went after our civilians.

We are not intending to wage war on their civilians.

Normally we avoid, at the cost of our own effectiveness, civilian casualties.

We should not worry about "collateral damage" this time.

That does not mean that we are TRYING to kill their civilians (as they did to us) but if we do, well, that's a shame now, isn't it?

...and everything you say or do has a subtext of socialism. Forgive me for seeing through your clever ruse (references to Denmark "having a higher standard of living" than the US would seem to be a rather significant tip-off to me).




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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:35 AM      
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quote:

Sure in theory it works but in practice it can become the contrary. This country has done a lot of fucked up things.



Yeah i heard we were gonna hijack arab planes with sporks and swiss army knives and head for the first mosque but they beat us to it.

Can we nail AM to the nose of the first warhead and ship him over?


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Spork
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:45 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Perhaps we can equip all our troops with sporks - a fantastic weapon that can confuse the enemy: "Is it a spoon, is it a fork? What the..." and then blindside them with super weapons!

We could screw them over even worse by modifying the sporks so that they become foons! :)




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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 1:48 AM      
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quote:

Perhaps we can equip all our troops with sporks - a fantastic weapon that can confuse the enemy: "Is it a spoon, is it a fork? What the..." and then blindside them with super weapons!



HAHAHAHA, now that's what I call military strategy. How can you refute that AM?

USA
GonzoStyle
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 2:02 AM      
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I can understand peoples anger and their deep rooted need as a human being for swift justice. But this is an enemy the likes we have never seen and frankly we were literally caught with our pants down. We are a generation who have been lucky to live in virtual peace we have had no great war or fear of one even during the gulf war. America's soil has never been in threat since the civil war and has never had an international threat on it's own soil since the revolutionary war. The need for justice is understandable none of us was prepared for this so many do not know how to deal with it, i understand the pain we all feel. But we must be strong now and we must not have the hatred of other men brew within us, because that is what they want. They want us to fall over ourselves and sink into turmoil and they want us to breed hatred like them but we will not and we may have been knocked down but we shall rise and score the final victory when all is said and done.

Whatever will be will be but we must not just strike for the sake of revenge but in self defense for our future generations.


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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 2:59 AM      
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quote:

why don't people hate Denmark or other European countries with higher standard of living than the U.S.


We have better PR.


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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:04 AM      
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wait, i have a question for grumpy. do you believe in suicide bombers as part of a jihad? (don't worry, it won't change my opinion of you, grumpy)i know very little about islam, but from what i read, an islamic martyr is one who follows the teachings of the koran, but does it say anywhere in the koran that one shoould blow themselves up? i don't think it does, but if you can educate us on what it does say in the koran, it might ease the tention on the board.

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