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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: The "Ewing" Theory | ||||
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| OAAWITE | posted on 01-08-2002 @ 8:11 PM |    | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70  | This is apropos of nothing, and not especially timely either, but after seeing Tom Brady take the Pats to a rediculous 11-3 finish this year after they lost their only good offensive player in Drew Bledsoe, I was reminded of the "Ewing" theory that ESPN Page2 columnist Bill Simmons put out earlier this Spring. Everyone thought they were going to finish worse than last year, but for some reason the whole team just stepped up and kicked ass on all cylanders. This article explains the not uncommon phenomenon The Ewing Theory  This message was edited by OAAWITE on 1-10-02 @ 10:18 AM | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 01-09-2002 @ 8:42 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | You honestly think that Bledsoe couldn't have done that? I hate it when people give Brady all of the credit. What about the improving line and the reemergence of Antowain Smith? If you gave Brady a record based on games that he specifically won and lost, he would be 1-1. And that's giving him the credit for the San Diego game. The loss was him blowing the game against Denver. The rest, he was just there and let the running game carry him along with some fancy plays designed by Weis. So, we'll see how good Bledsoe is when they trade him and keep Brady. Stupid Pats. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 01-10-2002 @ 8:18 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I don't like the Patriots, but I read on Espn recently that one team very interested in Bledsoe is the Bears. I think that would make the Bears on par with the Rams because Bledsoe is much better than Miller and Marcus Robinson comes back next year too. | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 01-10-2002 @ 10:19 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Well obviously, I can't say what would have happened if Bledsoe had been there or not. But the fact is that Bledsoe went 0-2 in the two games he played and Brady went 11-3. With Bledsoe the Pats averaged 10 points a game, and with Brady it was something like 25. Bledsoe has shown that he's not self-motivating winner. The only years he had when he was really good were when he had a guy like Parcells on his back. But the point of the article wasn't to say how great Brady was, it was to point out that many times when a team's star player goes down everyone expects the team to completely fold, but for some reason the rest of the team rallies and plays over their heads, which is exactly what happened to the Pats this year, and Ewing's Knicks many times in the past.  | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 01-10-2002 @ 2:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Anybody happen to hear Van Gundy last night on TNT with Marv and Mike? I didnt, but i heard in the paper that he said that he was in favor of the Ewing deal all along, and wanted him to leave. He didnt feel that it was right for Ewing to finish his career on the bench with the Knicks. I happen to agree with him. Just wondered what everyone else thought. Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 01-10-2002 @ 5:55 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Yeah, I know the point of the article but I just hate when everyone give Brady the credit for them winning. Give me a break. The other players around him are winning the games not him. I think you are underestimating Bledsoe A LOT. Sure, he was 0-2, but the team around him was still growing up, especially the offensive line. Plus, Antowain didn't even start and the emphasis was on the pass. And when you say that he didn't have any good years after Parcells, what a load of shit. What about 98? He was kicking ass that year until the thumb injury. Hell, he even won TWO games on the final drive WITH the broken thumb. What more do you want? And you bring up the stats, how many games did they win in a row without Brady throwing ANY touchdown passes? Ponderous. I hope Drew goes to the Bears, so he can get the hell out of this cynical place known as New England. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 01-10-2002 @ 6:46 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: No, you don't understand the point of the article. It's not "Brady is better than Bledsoe" I know a lot of people in Boston are saying that, but I'm not. it's not becuase Brady throws more touchdowns, has a better arm or anything. The fact that the could win the last five games with Brady throwing like 10 Ints and 1 TD is the point I was getting at. The point of this article is: A superstar goes down, someone replaces him who ISN'T AS GOOD, yet the team still does better. That's the Ewing Theory. For some reason, for some teams with some superstars, they tend to rally and step up as a team after an injury or free agency (the Mariners losing Arod, Randy, and Griffey) when everyone just expects that they will roll over a die. I wasn't starting a Brady is great and Bledsoe sucks thread. Other people in New England do think that. I just want one of them to get traded becuase they can get something damn good in return of the Seahawks were willing to give up two first rounders for an unproven Matt Hasselbeck. | ||||
| SOBERMAN | posted on 01-12-2002 @ 2:29 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 01 | OAAWITE, Obviously a transplanted New Yorker who knows nothing about New England sports. Dont speak on behalf of New Englanders because you aint one of them. Brady wins games because he is a real leader, has brains and does not make mistakes to lose the game. Bledsoe is respected and like most Pats fans I wish he could stay a Patriot but I doubt its possible. The Ewing Theory wore off quick because the rest of his teammates realize that Brady is a winner. Tom Brady and Troy Brown made the Pro Bowl, not New England's only good offensive player, Bledsoe. | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 01-12-2002 @ 3:21 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | OAAWITE, Bostonian Troy Brown didn't make the probowl dickface. He is an alternate. He only plays if someone else gets hurt. Brown's numbers this year were better than last year becuase he was the #1 receiver all year instead of being #2 behind Glenn half the year. That's your response, "Brady is a winner". Well, how does one debate that? Look at the numbers that the "winner" put in up the second half of the season. Absolutely piss poor. No mistakes? What 5 interceptions and 2 TDs in like 5 games? That is one of the single most stupid things that football fans say. If a team wins it's becuase the QB is a winner. If the team loses, it's the QB's fault. Everyone else stepped up this year. Antawain Smith, the coaching staff, special teams, Seymour, and the rest of the D. That's what happened. It's not like Brady stepped in becuase of injury like Warner did in '99 and tore it up. He was serviceable. He had like 3 or 4 phenomenal games, and few horrible games. The rest were mediocre.  | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 01-12-2002 @ 10:49 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | No no. I DO understand the article. First of all, my IQ is above 19. Second of all, I read it when it was first posted to espn.com months ago so thus I wouldn't have confused it with you saying that Brady is better than Bledsoe. Even Simmons himself called the Ewing theory when Bledsoe went down, basically using it as an example. Reading his articles, he firmly believes that Brady is better than Bledsoe. He is also a huge asshole but that's besides the point. It's nice to see that at least some people on here have the sense not to think that. Everyone gives Brady all of the credit like he's doing all of the work. The reason Bledsoe made more mistakes is because the game was solely on his back and he had no options anywhere. I guess that's what you can use as the main argument in the "Ewing Theory" debate but I still think the increasing maturity of the O-line and emergence of Antowain Smith as the two biggest reasons. Plus, the defense but they were there in the beginning too. They did get more healthy and Seymour got better but they weren't terrible in the first two games either. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
| SOBERMAN | posted on 01-13-2002 @ 11:34 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 01 | OAAWITE, You aint a Bostonian, you are a phony. Douche bag, Troy Brown was named an alternate to what? THE PRO BOWL dummy. He was the team's MVP this season on a team that was 11-5 and won the AFC EAST. Its not his fault that idiots like you dont give him props! If you didnt spend all your time kneeling at glory holes you would look at Brady's numbers that really count: 11-3 as NE's starting QB. No one gives Brady all the credit if you pick up a Boston newspaper or listen to sports radio. Brady plays like a seasoned veteran in his first year of playing time. Go jerk off to your statistics that dont mean shit. Wins and Losses are all that matters you fucking geek! Officer Joe Friday, I was not speaking to you in any of these or my previous comments as I agree with all your points and I have a Drew Bledsoe jersey that I still wear proudly. | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 01-14-2002 @ 2:58 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Blah blah blah. I live in Boston. I was born in Massachusetts and have spent the majority of my life in Boston. Jim Miller's team had a better record than Brett Favre's, Jeff Garcia's, Payton Mannings, and a hell of a lot of others. Does that mean that he's a winner? Does that mean that he's a great quarterback? You're a fucking moron if you give all a teams success to the quarterback. Whoopee. Now that I'm done with that.... And Friday, not to belabor the point about Brady/Bledsoe becuase I think we see eye to eye on that one. But I could not disagree more about your assesment on Bill Simmons. He's the funniest sports writer around, and I'm shocked that he's not more famous. | ||||
| Officer Joe Friday | posted on 01-15-2002 @ 6:16 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | He is pretty funny but his ignorant comments about Bledsoe aren't that good and show ignorance. I have emailed him a few times and he comes off on there like a pompous dick. I still read all of his articles though. He summed up my Cal Ripken thoughts to a tee. ------------------- But there's also this: there are over 5,000 men in this city, who know that being a policeman is an endless, glamourless, thankless job that's gotta be done. I know it, too, and I'm damn glad to be one of them." | ||||
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