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FoundryMusicDoug
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 5:17 PM      
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Try and name some sports records that no one will ever surpass.
1. Cal's consecutive game streak
2. Joe D's 56 game hitting streak

Name some more!

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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 5:36 PM      
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Great topic.

I don't think either of those are unbreakable. There have been like 10 people come within 20-25 games of breaking that record (including Rose at 44 games). It's very tough, but not unbreakable. Hell Benito Santiago of all people had a 34 game hit streak once. Someone could do it (NOMAR!)

Ripken's record isn't unbreakable either. It's not really a record of excellence. It's a record of attendance. Someone just has to stick around and not get hurt for 15 years. Very unlikely, but not impossible.

I would also say that none of the longevity records in pitching are unbreakable (Ryan's Ks, Cy Young's 500+ wins, 300+ losses 700+ complete games, and others) becuase you never know if some revolutionary pitcher might come in who throws underhanded (like a broad). Those softball pitchers don't tax their arm as much, so they could pitch 80-100 games a year instead of 30, and quickly surpass many of those records.

I'd pick these (assuming that the amount of games per season don't change):

Wayne Gretksy's point record (2,500+: 1000 points higher than anyone else)
Gretzky's 200 point season
Pete Rose's 4,200 hits
Bill Russells 11 Championships in a major sport
Napolean Lajoie's .422 batting average in a year
Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points in one game
Jerry Rice's 180+ touchdown receptions


Mike Rotch
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 5:40 PM      
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  1. Cy Young's record for wins (and losses
  2. Johnny Vander Meer's consecutive no-hitters (tied at best, but never surpassed)
  3. Rickey Henderson's HR's to lead off a game




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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 6:05 PM      
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Pete Rose's hits record will be broken within the next 15 years. Arod is on track to do it if he plays something like 16 or 17 full seasons, it will happen and happen soon.

I think the single season wins record (i think its 39, not sure though its something like that from the 1910s) will never be broken, only because people start one day in five instead of every four, so its impossible to get that many wins in a season.


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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 6:08 PM      
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Which will be broken first:AC Green's record for consecutive NBA games played...or his never getting laid streak in a league in where sex is like candy.



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Francine Banger
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 6:21 PM      
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Doug, were you listening to Joe Benigno on the FAN last night, this was brought up as a topic of discussion by a caller.

I dont see anybody breaking Ripken's streak. Gretzky's Point Total will never be broken. Cy Young's win total will never even come close, and nobody is breaking Johnny Van Der Meers consecutive no hitter streak.

FoundryMusicDoug
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 6:55 PM      
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Hoo Hoo, I'm ripping him off.

I'm not smart enough to come up with a topic like this. But it is a good discussion.

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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 6:57 PM      
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quote:

Arod is on track to do it if he plays something like 16 or 17 full seasons, it will happen and happen soon.



CLS, your math is WAY OFF. For someone to break Rose's record, they have to average over 200 hits for 20 seasons.

AROD has gotten 200 hits three times in his eight seasons, and is averaging like 180 hits. He hits way too far down in the order.

The only type of person who can do that, is someone who bats near the top of the order and doesn't walk much. Ichiro is 27, so he's got no shot. The only other current day player is Jeter. He's moving to leadoff, so that will help his chances a bit. He's currently averaged almost exactly 200 hits per season for 6 years. He would have to maintain that average for another 14+ years, when he'd be 41.



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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 8:57 PM      
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A few comments, and a few more records:
quote:

1. Cal's consecutive game streak
2. Joe D's 56 game hitting streak
I'd say both are very improbable to be broken, but not too far out of reach to say it will never happen. The 56 game hit streak in particular is one that could possibly be broken by a good contact hitter who doesn't tend to swing for the fences.
quote:

I would also say that none of the longevity records in pitching are unbreakable (Ryan's Ks, Cy Young's 500+ wins, 300+ losses 700+ complete games, and others) becuase you never know if some revolutionary pitcher might come in who throws underhanded (like a broad).
What I wonder is, is it physically possible to pitch a baseball effectively windmill-style? A softball is heavier, which gives it more inertia, but I don't think you could get the same type of force behind a baseball. If you could, wouldn't it have been done, or at least tried, by now?

With that said, I think Cy Young's records are safe, as is Ryan's career strikeout record, and so many others. Examples:

Single season wins:
Charlie Radbourn - 59 (1884)
Ed Walsh - 40 (1908)

Career shutouts:
Walter Johnson - 110

Also, I agree, nobody will ever come close to Gretzky's career and single season points records.

Some more:

Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points in one game (especially with zone defense).
Wilt's 50.4 single season PPG average.
Rickey Henderson's career steals (around 1400, I think)
Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters.
Pete Maravich's career NCAA PPG average (44.2?).


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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 9:06 PM      
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quote:

Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points in one game (especially with zone defense).



And while we are on the subject of Wilt, will anyone top the 20,000 sexual conquests he had?
I guess someone will break the all time point total one day.




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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 10:44 PM      
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Here's one: Richie Asburn hitting an old lady in the head with a foul ball, then hitting the same lady in the head with another foul ball as she was being carried out of the stadium in a stretcher.


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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 11:19 PM      
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BaseballReference has single-season and career stats. I think that the hardest to break is the Earned Run Average record.

Ed Walsh averaged 1.82 for his ENTIRE career. No pitcher nowadays can even do it for one season. Active leaders are Pedro and surprisingly, Johnny Franco.



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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 11:31 PM      
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quote:

And while we are on the subject of Wilt, will anyone top the 20,000 sexual conquests he had?


What about Shelle's amateur mark?

(I'm really sorry. It was so goddamn easy.)

Doesn't Alkey almost have that in men alone?

(Really, very sorry.)



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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 11:55 PM      
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Magic Johnson most games played with the HIV.

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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 11:59 PM      
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The amount of punches Ali took to his head (although holyfield may come close to breaking that record)

Most games played in a row by Ripken

Amount of cocaine Nate Newton had in his van

back to back no-hitters thrown by 1 player

Troy Aikman's record of number of concussions by one player in football career

And a lot of the others you have all brought up

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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 12:05 AM      
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quote:

Magic Johnson most games played with the HIV.

I think there's an asterisk next to that record that reads: *players that we KNOW of that have the HIV"


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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 12:10 AM      
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quote:

Amount of cocaine Nate Newton had in his van




No, no. Nate had a ton of weed
Irvin pushed the cocaine
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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 1:25 AM      
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quote:

Players that we know of that have HIV



Yeah I'm sure Rodman and Wilt have the Aids

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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 11:01 AM      
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what about tatis from the cards hitting 2 grand slams in one inning!?

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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 11:03 AM      
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quote:

The amount of punches Ali took to his head



That one was actually broken by George Foreman back in '96 when he was about 40.

quote:

Amount of cocaine Nate Newton had in his van



Does it have to be in a van? Iverson will definitely break that record after he retires (weed that is), but he wouldnt be in a damn van. He'd have a Hummer stockpiled.




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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 6:08 PM      
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quote:

And while we are on the subject of Wilt, will anyone top the 20,000 sexual conquests he had?

Are you jealous?

quote:

1. Cal's consecutive game streak

I thought it wouldnt be broken when Gehrig had it


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