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TeenWeek what's a status?	posted on 02-06-2002 @ 10:59 AM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	Why the Expos and Twins? yes, they were ranked 29th and 30th respectively in revenue, but are these franchises competing better than say Florida, tampa bay, Milwaukee. Milwaukee just handed the Mets their best player for nothing. Mets fans, you know this deal was a steal. You could have given the groundskeeper or the beer vendor to Milwaukee and you would have given up more in return. Florida and tampa bay are just jokes. Minnesota has a young nucleus, led the Al central for much of the year and only tanked end of the year. Red Sox fans know what that feels like, but it does not mean they should contract the red Sox. A new stadium for Minnesota would really help them. Hey they outdrew a team like the White Sox. The Expos have a farm system that even makes the Yankees take notice. Brings up my next point, why not relocate the Expos. Washington has been an option and a viable one at that. Would make sense. It works for football. Tennesee relocated and made the Super Bowl. St. Louis relocated too and they are one of the top teams in the NFL. Baltimore relocated and won the Super Bowl soon after. Next point is Bud Selig , who I consider the worst commissioner in all of sports at least in the time I have watched sports and I am 28. He is a fucking joke. He says baseball lost 519 million last year, but yet Red Sox get sold for a ridiculous amount of money. A group in Washington wants to buy the Expos. A group in Minnesota wants to purchase the Twins and build a stadium. The Yankees have their own network and are probably worth a billion, forget millions. Bud Selig killed the World Series and under his commissionership is contracting teams that should not be contracted. He wants the Twins a team with a big history to be contracted so a friend of his can make more money than by selling the team. This only happens to be a friend that gave him a small loan back when Selig needed it to help out the Brewers. I am a Yankees fan, so I have been spoiled lately, but I would like to see more of a competitive balance. There should be a salary cap, but also a minimum salary cap. Owners should not reap the profits and put nithing back into the team. No matter how much you hate Steinbrenner, he does whatever he has to to put a good team on the field. Look when he played the Mets, he had all the furniture from yankee stadium put in the Yankees clubhouse at Shea to make his team more comfortable. He has 4 or more scouts for each team he might be playing in the playoffs. What team would not want an owner like him. I find it sickening that owners who are worth more than Steinbrenner, think Fox and Disney, are actually taking his money because they claim losses and put shit out as a team and expects their fans to accept it. the twins put out a good team for what they can afford. Oakland is competitive for a small market team. White Sox, Dodgers, Angels, Orioles, Blue jays, Brewers to name a few are a disgrace. They put crappy teams on the field and than cry poverty so the yankees, the Braves, the Red Sox can buy the owner a new car or a new home. edit**** Just saw this on espn.com quote: In 2003, baseball is not necessarily tied to contracting the Expos and Twins, although those teams remain the front-runners. While Montreal is certain to be part of any contraction plan, Minnesota could move itself out of the picture with a stadium deal, leaving baseball with some tough decisions in selecting a second team for contraction. The focus would move to Florida, but Jeffrey Loria just bought the Marlins, so that team probably is no longer a target and the Devil Rays have a long-term stadium lease. Oakland has been another team mentioned as a contraction possibility and the A's are on a year-to-year lease. So if the Twins get a stadium deal, they are thinking of the A's. Give me a fucking break. With a little payroll, they made the playoffs 2 years in a row and pushed the Yankees further than anyone. Well before they lost Giambi, they were a top 10 team in baseball. Who gives a fuck that the marlins just got sold. They disgraced baseball, by holding a firesale of their team as soon as they won the WOrld Series. of course, the ethical Bud Selig who only cares about what is, "good for baseball" allowed it to happen. Loria currently owns both the Expos and Marlins. This message was edited by TeenWeek on 2-6-02 @ 11:33 AM

PeterDragon	posted on 02-06-2002 @ 9:18 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	First of all, Burnitz wasn't Brewers best player -Richie Sexton probably was. but that discussion is for another day. Why contraction - 1) MLB splits limited national TV revenue 30 ways, contraction increases dollars per team. 2) the greed of over-expansion has diluted talent, especially pitching (except for Yankees of course :)) 3) Road Teams get a split of home gate. NL teams hate having to go into Montreal with their 7k fans per game. Why Montreal? The team draws an abysmal 7,000 fans per game, and have no english language TV deal. When team was good in late 70's early 80's, they drew decent. Now it seems unlikely baseball will ever be able to make a comeback there. Washington lost 2 teams; why should we think now would be different? Redskins is what they care about. The more cities that don't have teams but want them, the more leverage the owners have. They love having Washington DC as a POTENTIAL site more than they would actually like them to have a team. Tampa Bay should be dismantled imediately, but they have some ridiculous amount of years left on the lease of that eyesore they call a ball park. Minnesota - good sports town, team has a long history (including the Senators) but they have an owner willing to sell out. Competition has nothing to do with it; it is revenue. Cubs spent many years with poor team, but they always drew well, so the owners were happy.

TheJays This status sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥h?m: I MAKE COOL PICTURES Proud To Be An American	posted on 02-06-2002 @ 11:19 PM
Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01	Baseball has been suffering from what this candy is about to suffer with... quote: M&M's Looking to Add Color SPOKANE, WA, Jan. 29 - The candy coated chocolate that melts in your mouth, not in your hands plans to add a new coat. And you get to decide what it will look like. For the first time, M&M is adding a color, instead of replacing colors as was done in the past. Tan replaced violet, and then blue replaced tan, but the number of M&M's has remained the same...until now. The number of color candies is expanding by one, hoping to give either purple, pink, or aquamarine better representation in the major leagues. But, many feel that too many colors make the candy more watered down and lessen the quality of candy in the bags. Do you feel that expansion is the answer, or should M&M's contract? Fo shizza my nizza, is it ok to say nizza? "I haven't felt that good since Artie Gammell score against Holland in 1978." "When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading "Guns and Ammo", masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, "Wow! It is amazing how fucking crazy I really am!" "Bitch, what you don't know about me I can just about squeeze in the Grand fucking Canyon. Did you know I always wanted to be a dancer in Vegas?" "Bazooko's Circus is what the world would be doing every Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war.

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