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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Official Mets 2002 season thread | ||||
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| PeterDragon | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 2:38 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01  | I know it's early, but today is 1st exhibition game, and tomorrow game will air on WFAN (of course I can only listen from 1-3 :) ) Unlike last year, this year I have a lot of hope for the Metsies. Mets start season with a lot of talent, but a lot of question marks. Mets have added a lot of fire power, if: 1) Vaughn rebounds to his Red Sox days 2) Alfonzo rebounds from his back injury and plays like 1999/2000 3) Ordonez really has learned a little plate discipline, can hit like he did at end of season, and has learned not to swing at that pitch at his eyes 4) Payton finally has injury free season and plays up to his ability 5) Cedeno plays the way he did for Mets in 1999, and not necessarily like he did for Tigers in 2001 6) Burnitz feels comfortable since he isn't required to be the big bopper (yeah, I know Sexton was the real bopper for Brewers) and hits like he did in 1999 Mets pitching staff may actually be BETTER than the Braves if: 1) Estes matures and controls his walks. He has pretty hit/inning ratio for his career, and a nasty curve ball. His problem is trying to make the perfect pitch too often. I do believe Leiter can reach him. 2) Astascio stays healthy. A solid #2 starter IF that shoulder tear really is unimportant as Mets keep saying. 3) Trachsel pitches like he did in 2nd half of season, and not like 1st half. 4) Benitez pitches like he did in 43 saves, and not 3 blown ones. I'm one of those who think that the rap that he can't pitch in big games is overblown. Yeah, he makes me nervous, and he is no Mariano Rivera, but it's one of the things that people remember the bad games and forget good ones. Everyone remembers how he blew 9/23/01 game with big lead, but they forget that he closed out the 3-2 game on 9/21/01, the 1st game vs. Braves after 9/11, with the pomp & circumstances and late Piazza HR. He may not be the best closer, but I think he is in top 6, not the garbage a lot think he is. Franco's injury hurt him also (by forcing Valentine to go to him too often.) 4) Maddox & Glavine continue their decline to "human" status instead of the supermen that they have been in past. My Season Prediction (based on nothing but wishful thinking) 98-64, 1st place 2 games better than Braves. Ya Gotta Believe !!  This message was edited by PeterDragon on 2-28-02 @ 3:42 PM | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 3:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | I hope your prediction comes true and am really looking forward to this season, but this pitching staff has me a little nervous: Leiter/Estes/Astacio/Chen/Trachsel/D'Amico. The offense on paper is great, but I hope this doesn't end up being a Houston/Texas type team that scores 8 runs a game but gives up 10. Most of the trades were great, but I think giving up Appier, a solid #2 starter, may come back to haunt them. Outside of Leiter, there's a lot of potential there but the question is consistency. Another thing: I know Trachsel had a great 2nd half, but the guy is a LOSING pitcher. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has he ever had a winning season? Or played for a winning team? The bullpen is improved from last season with Weathers/Gonzalez/Guthrie/Roberts/Komiyama/whichever starter comes out of the pen..very good middle relief setting up Franco/Benitez. The lineup has a lot of versatility, many options..hopefully Vaughn or Burnitz can cut down a bit on their strikeouts, 2 left handed power hitters that strike out 150 times could lead to problems.. It'll be interesting also to see how Alfonzo adjusts to playing 3rd and Cedeno in left. Looking forward to finally overtaking Atlanta, but their outfield is ridiculous: Jones/Jones/Sheffield. best in the majors. But we shall see... Random thought: only 8 players remain from the 2000 WS tram | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 3:42 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Im sick of hearing this. Do the Mets have the best pitching staff in Baseball? No. Do the Mets have a Randy Johnson or a Curt Schilling that is a game stopper no? But the Mets pitching staff is not bad at all. They have a Top Caliber Pitching staff that has alot of question marks, but alot of potential as well. Astacio, D'Amico, and Estes have an upside to them. And with the offense the Mets are putting out there, they dont need to go out and throw 8 innings of shut out baseball for the Mets to win. This Pitching staff is improved from last year, and last year they won 82 games with the worst hitting team in the leauge. If you want to worry about the Mets pitching staff. worry about guys like Astacio and D'Amico staying healthy. But Im not worried at all about the pitching. I might be a big worried come playoff time in a short series without a dominator, but thats a long ways off.  | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 3:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I've heard it alot, but I don't see the texas comparisons. Mets starting pitching definitely won't be THAT bad. Even if D'Amico can't pitch, Estes has never been a BAD pitcher, and they have Chen, Dicky Gonzalez, Grant Roberts, and probably even Seo to step in. A staff like that won't be terrible, just mediocre - maybe more like Seattle staff last year. Appier (IMHO) over achieved last year. look at his post-surgery career. Burnitz strikeouts don't bother me, since, unlike other Mets, he draws walks. Burnitz struck out 3x more often than Ordonez - who would you rather be at the plate? My biggest worry is those damn Braves. Furcal, Chipper Jones & now sheffield - that disturbs me. | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 3:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I think its about time for the 2002 Crack Committee to get together and set new objectives for the upcoming year. :) Pete, you summed it up pretty well, except: I want Chen to pitch instead of Traschel. Chen can be better than Steve, and much more consistent. Word is that Chen is doing great so far, if he keeps it up, i like him for the #5 spot. Look for D'Amico to have a 15 or 16 win season...16-9 is more like it. Hmm, how does a #1 goal for the Crack Committee of 96 wins and 1st place in the division sound? Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball (clinched NIT bid already, now shooting for NCAA bid) Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 4:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | quote: good point, don't get me wrong i think it's a staff capable of making the playoffs, but come playoff time, pitching wins championships - case in point Seattle..Moyer won 3 of the 4 playoff games Seattle won. As far as the regular season goes, the staff should be good if healthy, I was thinking more along the lines of postseason success..after all, isn't that the point of the trades they've made and money they spent? | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 4:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I could do without Trachsel also, but he is an "innings eater" and D'Amico has been injured too often to rely on. What I will say is I hope they don't trade Chen under any circumstances. If he is willing to take the bullpen/spot starter role, great. Trachsel will probably be hard to trade, and wouldn't do well in pen. 2/28/02 - Mets lose 5-2 to Cards in Preseason opener: Shawn Estes pitched a shutout inning in his Met debut and Jeromy Burnitz, beginning his second tour of duty with the Mets, singled twice. Roberto Alomar went hitless in two at-bats in his first game as a Met, while Roger Cedeno kicked off his second tenure for the team by going 1-for-4 with a double. As for Crack Committee, for now I'll stay with rooting for Mets to win Division. I won't make any negative comments towards that other NY team except in retaliation. Of course, since I have Cablevision, I won't get to see their games ;) This message was edited by PeterDragon on 2-28-02 @ 5:15 PM | ||||
| Cunt-Twat I'm not a Cockblocker, I'm a COCKSUCKER! | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 7:45 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | let's go mets go...2002. i believe! :) WHO SAID I DON'T LOVE THE SLACKJAW?!? :) | ||||
| Delta Sigma Phuk Ups | posted on 02-28-2002 @ 11:20 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | Fuck, we lost today, season's over. Can we win the NL East this year and do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of the Yankees and their winning. We have an all star team in Queens (Offensively). We all know what Armando can do in the regular season, Playoffs..Well we know Stinky, who most certainly does NOT rule - J.Norton | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 12:04 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Well the Crack Committee will be different this year in that we will worry less about what the Yanks do, and more about what the Mets do. I could care less what the Yanks do, as long as they dont get in our way. I care about the Mets overtaking the Phils and the Braves. Consider yourself a proud member of the Crack Committee. :) Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball (clinched NIT bid already, now shooting for NCAA bid) Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 11:38 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | I'm not worried about the Phillies, I don't think their team will play to the level they did last year, and the fact that Rolen wants out is going to provide a pretty big distraction. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 2:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | CF, in that case, sign me up for another tour of duty :) 1st - knock of Braves (and stomp on their grave) then bury Cardinals (who I think will win central) Then I'll worry about the AL. Hey - If I can't be confident now, when can I be :D (hey, 1st inning today Ordonez drew a walk; anything can happen) | ||||
| hammersavage | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 2:12 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | Nooo! I wanted to start the "Official Mets Thread." Damn it. Expecting really big things from this team like everyone else. Opening day only 31 days away. They look like they are getting along and have a balanced team with the offensive power and solid starting pitching and bullpen. No chance of "The worst team money can buy, 2" 17 days till I go to spring training and counting... Maybe I will send back a spring training report exclusive to OA.com I hope to have over 1,000 posts before the end of the year in just this thread alone.  Salad Tosser Left Fielder, Center Fielder, and First Baseman **Official Painter of Billboards** "Opie and Anthony: The thinking mans Beavis and Butthead" -Playboy This message was edited by hammersavage on 3-1-02 @ 2:27 PM | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 2:27 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | I'm going to have to pick the Mets to win the NL. Unlike a lot of people, I think their pitching staff is going to be well above average. Astacio will have Leiter-like numbers. Estes and Chen are underrated as well. This should be a 100-win team. Serious competition coming from the Cards and Cubs. The Dbacks aren't going to do as well this year becuase either Johnson or Schilling will be lost for an extended time due to injury. Those guys are each almost 40, and it's bound to happen (especially Schilling, who somehow miraculously avoided injuries all year last year. The Braves will continue to regress as they continue to age, the Astros out-of-nowhere pitching staff will have more realistic numbers, and Froy's right about the Rolen mess ruining the Phills season. Significant improvement from San Diego and Florida this year.  New Poster with a question? AIM me | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 4:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | woohoo, first page!!! i think that this year the team will be fine. not 115 wins or anything out of this world, but definately winning 90-95 games and taking the east. Sure the pitching staff isn't the best in baseball, but the offense will more than make up for it. Benitez worries me at times, but franco gave me a damn ulcer with his way of closing games...any way you cut it, i can't wait for this season, and am looking forward to april 1!!!  | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 4:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: hammersavage, na na na na ...... :D OAWWITE, I don't think SD will do as well as they should. Last year Mets were devastated by loss of Brian Cole. I think same thing will happen in SD due to Mike Darr. At least it happened early in camp. | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 03-01-2002 @ 10:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Maybe so, but that certainly wasnt why the Mets were so bad last year, nor will it be why San Diego will be bad this year. | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 4:11 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Damn, D'Amico didnt look too sharp the other day in his first exhibition game. Got hit around a little bit. Granted its only preseason, but i coulda sworn the hierarchy of the Mets was saying how great he was throwing so far. He just didnt have it i guess. No worries from me though, its still VERY early. Our contenders in the NL are the Cardinals, who have the 2002 MVP IMO in J.D. Drew, the Braves, the Dodgers, the Cubs, and the DBacks. I dont include the Giants because they just dont impress me much this year. Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball (clinched NIT bid already, now shooting for NCAA bid) Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 5:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | Considering Jeff Kent is out for the next 6 weeks, I wouldn't worry about Frisco. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 03-02-2002 @ 10:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Did you hear about how Kent got hurt? He fell down while washing his car? I kid you not, It dont get any funnier than that. This message was edited by Francine Banger on 3-3-02 @ 7:56 PM | ||||
| hammersavage | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 2:09 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Alright, but I call dibs on Official Mets 2003 season thread! I think I am most looking forward to watching Ordonez and Alomar together and seeing the poetry of the middle infield. Just throw it to Vaughan's chest. Salad Tosser Left Fielder, Center Fielder, and First Baseman **Official Painter of Billboards** "Opie and Anthony: The thinking mans Beavis and Butthead" -Playboy | ||||
| Paper Doll | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 10:02 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Mar. 02 | quote: How about the Crack Comittee put down the crack pipes and root for a real team? ;) quote: Sounds great, for the Yankees :) | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 10:28 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Defiling the sacred Mets thread Paper Doll?? Its ok, welcome to the board, i think we'll have some fun talking together.quote: Ill have to admit that did get me laughing a little bit. :) Go Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and Rutgers Men's Basketball (clinched NIT bid already, now shooting for NCAA bid) Long Live Psycho Bitch | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 10:29 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Thats all you expect is 96 wins playing in the Greatest Division in baseball? quote: So I take that the Mets are a fake team than? | ||||
| Paper Doll | posted on 03-03-2002 @ 10:44 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Mar. 02 | Way to take a joke Banger, lol Thanks for the welcome Cluster F. I think I'm gonna like arguing with you for some strange reason :) | ||||
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