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| PeterDragon | posted on 05-16-2002 @ 4:17 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01  | Well, I know there was a Bye Bye Low thread, and threads about Hitchcock & Tippet, but I figured there might as well be a thread where the focus was the Rangers moves (and lack thereof) Sather was set up to take the pick of the litter. He had first shot to make a quality hire, and so far - Nothing. Hitchcock gone to Philly, Tippet to Dallas, Robinson wants to rest, and now rumor has it that Herb Brooks is insulted that Sather didn't give him the job right away. Is Sather a quiet genius, or has the game past him by? Who's left? Ted Nolan - supposedly interviewed well, but he's been out of NHL for 4 yrs. John Paddock - Good soldier at Hartford, coached in big leagues before, but was passed over for Low. Bryan Trottier - Behind a Ranger Bench ??? besides, rumors have him going to Caps. Mark Messier - no coaching experience - can he command respect from guys he played with? Pat Burns - Harry Sinden doomed him with Sather; didn't even get courtesy personal interview. Guy Carbonneau- Smart guy, no coaching experience - would he wilt in MSG? Sather's closed mouth personality leads to speculation and doubt. I hope he somehow makes the right decision, but I'm loosing hope.  2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 05-16-2002 @ 5:42 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Sather is an idiot. If he's not looking for a coach he might as well look for some good defensmen. Especially before 4 more teams come into the picture once the playoffs are finished. How about sending Nedved to Dallas for Zubov or Hatcher? I'm sure they are stupid enough to take it....Do something Sather!  Shit Can Happen | ||||
| Syndrummer LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!! | posted on 05-22-2002 @ 11:28 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | I think Nolan would be a good fit. What about Barry Melrose? And they despratley need some defenseive help. | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 05-22-2002 @ 12:50 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | quote: If that deal actually happens, then either Sather will be considered a fucking genius or Dallas will be considered an incredibly stupid team. | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 05-22-2002 @ 1:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Today's Glen Sather quote: "(I) have a lot of work to do and probably would get back to the coaching situation again this week" this was what Sather told Ted Nolan after Nolan took it upon himself to call Sather. [Sarcasm]Yeah, no hurry to hire a coach; Why get a system in place before the July 1st Free Agent date? [/Sarcasm] :mad: 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| Raven Portugal | posted on 05-22-2002 @ 6:26 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | I think he should hire Nolan or Wilson NOW and end this maddness!!!!! (wilson won the world cup in 96 and might be able to get some team usa guys here like brooks would have) I'M BACK!!! E-Mail Me I have always been on the outside looking in and I have always prevailed. I will wage a war that will leave men broken and battered. But hope and perception have never ruled my life. Quote the Raven, nevermore." | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 05-22-2002 @ 9:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | quote: Well, Dallas is desperate to get a better team. They already announced Belfour won't be on their team next year. Turgeon turned out to be a bad pickup, and they lost Hull and Neiwendyke(sp?) Arnott can't replace him. So I'd expect Dallas to sacrifice one of their solid D-Men for a forward that can score 20-30 goals. Even though Nedved is a cock...  Shit Can Happen | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 05-25-2002 @ 12:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Today, Larry Brooks of the NY Post is reporting that Sather might decide to coach the team himself, and make Mark Messier an assistant. I know Larry Brooks is wrong more often than right, but I sure as hell can't predict what Sather will do. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 3b. Learn how to run the bases 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 05-25-2002 @ 7:25 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | That would be cool if Sather could coach them, but ever since he got here he has made really stupid decisions. So I don't know if he has the smarts anymore. Shit Can Happen | ||||
OA.com's Bodyguard Anger problem? What anger problem? I hate the fucking mud! USA | posted on 05-25-2002 @ 11:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I just checked out the list of the all-time winningest NHL coaches and Sather comes in at #8 on the list. Not only that, but he has 4 Stanley Cup victories to his name. Now granted they were coaching Gretzky in his prime, but one man does not make a team. Sather was not only a coach, but the GM as well for a dynasty over in Edmonton. I say it's worth a shot, if only for one season. No offense Ranger fans, but you can't do any worse.
Don't make me angry. | ||||
| Tenbatsuzen I deserve a status because I'm an interesting and funny guy. | posted on 05-26-2002 @ 3:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | I thought Mike Keenan was back in the mix with all the management shakeups in Florida? I knew the tampering allegation was made with the OLD GM - he was fired a week later. This is hilarious. We have all this scoring power, and can't do a goddamn thing. I still blame Joe Sakic for this mess.  | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 05-26-2002 @ 8:08 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Moosen, It's not that Sather would be a bad coach, it is that he wasn't planning on going behind the bench. Supposedly Bure asked him to coach when they fired Low, and Sather said no. NY press is used to getting complete access to the teams and their management; Sather is so closed mouthed, and he holes himself up in phoenix - no one can figure out what he is doing. Like Jagr - everyone figured he was going after Jagr and got trumped by Capitals - Sather claims Pittsburgh wanted too much and that he wanted Lindros all along. Similar to here, when he says Hitchcock wasn't the right fit. Just damn frustrating - but we'll see if he is still a genius, or if the game has passed him by. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 3b. Learn how to run the bases 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 05-30-2002 @ 10:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Today's rumor: Stan Fischler (yeah, we can probably already disregard this) on msgnetwork.com said that a Ranger spokesman told him that Sather is interested in speaking to both Dave Lewis of the Wings and Bryan Trottier of Avs for coaching vacancy. Trottier - obviously it will be hard to convince Ranger Faithful that an ex-Isles legend should be behind their bench. (If you doubt that, check out FB's post on Trots). On the upside he HAS paid his dues, and he had the kind of attitude you would want to install in your team. Lewis - well respected 14 yr assistant. As AAron Ward of the Huricanes puts it"Lewis is the real coach of the Wings, Scotty is like a figurehead. Dave is the guy." In any case, the clock is ticking. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 3b. Learn how to run the bases 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| Syndrummer LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!! | posted on 05-31-2002 @ 1:09 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | quote: At least he was smart enough to FINALLY get Bure. He has been this close to becoming a Ranger so many times in the past few years. Thank God we do now. | ||||
| Menino | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 12:47 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | I read in the paper yesterday that sal "red light" Messina retired as color man in the rangers radio booth. This guy will truly be missed. He never took attention away from the game and bought attention to himself. he was there every game, every season. He didnt treat the ranger radio job as secondary work, you knew the rangers were his top priority unlike now when there are diffrent people in the booth every game depending on what day of the week it is. You knew he really loved the rangers more then anything. I just hope they replace him with someone who will love the job not someone who will leave every sunday for an NFL gig or an NCAA tourney gig. | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 1:29 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: I assume this is a shot at Sam Rosen. Why are you getting on Sam's case. He is a talented play by play man in not only hockey but also for the NFL on Fox. Whats the problem with that? The guy has probably broadcasted 95% of Ranger games the past 15 years. So what if he misses an occasional Saturday Night game here becuase he has a football game the next day. And on many occasions he has done a Sunday afternoon football game, followed by a Sunday Night game at the Garden. Sal didnt do other things, because hes a Hockey Analyst case closed. I liked Sal, but my one thing on him is he didnt give the Rangers the amount of criticism they truly deserved.  | ||||
| Syndrummer LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!! | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 12:14 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | Sam and JD are probably the best combo in the league, if not in all sports. Whenever I watch another teams games, the announcers are always SO biased against the other team and lifeless. Sam and JD are always impartial, and get excited when a great play happens, even if its against the Rangers. And they call a great game. This world rejects me This world threw me away This world never gave me a chance This worlds gonna have to pay -Do you believe in fate?- | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 12:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Sal "Red-light" Messina will definitely be missed. He was a pleasure to listen to, as much for his easy going style as anything. As FB said he was sometimes not critical enough, but not so that it was terrible. Sal's banter with Marv Albert was a pleasant diversion when the team wasn't up to snuff. Losing Sal from the Ranger booth and Dave Jennings from the Jets booth will make my fall a little less enjoyable. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| Menino | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 2:55 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Banger, youre right about Sam Rosen I wasn't referring to him, I should have been more clear, my bad. I was Referring to Kenny albert who you know is using the ranger job as a stepping stone to get a bigger job. It's ok for someone to do that but as a fan I'd rather have someone who is there for the long haul. | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 3:13 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | And how do you know that Kenny Albert is looking for a bigger job? He is in the same boat as Rosen, he is talented enough to be able to do just about every other sport which he does. If hes versatile enough to do other projects, he shouldnt be criticized enough for it. I compare Kenny Albert to Shane McMahon. Both individuals are very talented at what they do, but probably never would have had the oppurtunity to do what they do, or at least not as easy as it was to get that oppurtunity, if it wasnt for their last name. the real topic is who will replace Messina as the analyst, in which I think the favorite is probably Dave Maloney who filled in for Messina the rare times Messina would miss a game, or when Messina was doing TV, when JD had another assignment. | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-11-2002 @ 3:17 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Menino, I'm not so sure about Kenny Albert wanting to leave so soon. Remember, Marv did Rangers for so many years, and Sal Messina mentioned Kenny hanging around when he was 7 or so. Yeah, Kenny has aspirations, but he also has an attachment to Knicks/Rangers. Of course, I'd rather him leave than Rosen, who I agree does a great job. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-12-2002 @ 12:51 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Well, it's not Mike Bossy. New coach Bryan Trottier and general manager Glen Sather will introduce Jim Schoenfeld and Terry O'Reilly as assistant coaches. I know some of you weren't alive then, but Terry O'reilly regularly beat up NY Rangers during his playing days. Here is a description I found of O'Reilly on a fan's site: While his goal and point production declined steadily in the 1980s, the hard-working ice soldier still was a presence on the ice that would make Tie Domi look like an ice dancer. O'Reilly had no problem assaulting referee Andy Van Hellemond during a playoff contest in the 1981-82 campaign. Jim Schoenfeld of course is best known as the coach of the Devils who said to referee Terry Koharski "You’re crazy, I didn’t push you. Get another doughnut, you fat #$%! Pig." Two assistants who were tough as nails, and who have head coaching experience. This is a strange time in Rangerland. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| FirstTime LongTime | posted on 06-12-2002 @ 4:42 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | A few observations and comments: Sam & JD - Sam might not be the greatest hockey mind, but he generally calls a good game, and any stuff he doesn't know, JD is there with the answers...He's a much better caller than that whiney Doc Emrick and that annoying Gary Thorne...Also, JD isn't afraid to correct himself either when he does make a rare error, and, as a few of you said, they're not 'homer's...If you ask me, they should at least have had JD in the booth for the Stanley Cup...He's a waste with the pre-game and intermission crap... As for the Rangers assistant coaching picks, either it's a sign they want some decent back-up for Trottier, OR, they're already planning for his demise by hiring two former NHL coaches as assistants...Anyway, both were ex-captains of their respective teams, so they should add a little leadership in the locker room...But I dunno, might be too many cooks stirring the soup now...  FUCK OBX!!! At the end of the day or at the end of the party, when everyone goes home, you're stuck with yourself. - Layne Staley | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-22-2002 @ 4:56 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Well, Rangers' first pick is in 2nd round (1st round went for Bure), and they pick Lee Falardeau from Michigan State University Position: RW (played C at MSU) Height: 6'4½" Weight: 203 Central scouting report: A deceptively fast, wide-based skater with good acceleration and breakaway speed ... a power forward who drives hard to the net ... takes advantage of his excellent reach to create opportunities around the net ... an aggressive forward and a tenacious forechecker ... a good centerman who is often used for key face-offs ... an effective penalty killer ... a hard worker who plays with drive and determination ... has a good understanding of the game and adjusts well to different styles of play ... is very physical in the corners and in front of the net ... a big, strong player who uses his size to his advantage. swapped picks with Ottawa in 3rd - then picked a swedish kid, also about 6-4 220 Well, NHL drafts are like MLB - you usually can't tell for a couple of years, but at least we took a power forward type, which is what the franchise has needed for years. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) This message was edited by PeterDragon on 6-22-02 @ 6:16 PM | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-24-2002 @ 9:29 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Rangers make a trade!! OK, it was only picking up Krzysztof Oliwa from the Penguins for "future considerations". I have no idea what purpose this served. One bruiser will have to go - Newsday speculates Steve McKenna, Post speculates Sandy McCarthy (who I hope stays). Rangers also won't pick up options on Fleury or Berard (no surprise), and they reportedly are one of the teams interested in Kasparitis. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
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