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King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 5:30 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01  | They keep pushing the fan's all-star voting every time I turn on a game this time of year. But is it really necesary? I think it's nice that the fans get to vote, but isn't it a little too biased? It seems to carry too much weight, especially for the players who are in the bigger markets. Do you think fans should have a say? Or would you rather it go back to being a closed selection process?  I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit | ||||
| JimboSHU my status is extremely accurate. | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 5:37 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | i could careless about these kind of things honestly. i think it should just be based solely on stats. it's also well noted that the nyc metro area is notorious for not participating in all-star ballots or anything similar. I ran the all-star balloting for the metrostars last year and I think I had a total of 20-25 actual cards filled out properly and returned. forgot to add that more than anything it's for teams and leagues to form databases for marketing purposes.  This message was edited by JimboSHU on 6-1-02 @ 5:40 PM | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 5:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | You mean you don't think that Robbie Alomar and Mike Piazza should be leading at their positions :-D Here you can vote online:MLB All-Star Ballot The game has much less meaning since interleague play. Before it was a good opportunity to see players you never saw before. What they should do is expand the roster a little; Now there are more teams and each needs to have one representative. Also, make an honorary slot for guys who fans want to vote for but don't deserve it anymore (Cal Ripkin)  2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 3b. Learn how to run the bases 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| diceisgod I ALWAYS LOSE. | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 5:45 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 01 | There will be controversy regardless of the method used in all-star selection. You can never please everyone. At least with the fans voting the majority get to see the player they want to see. It does suck for the quality players in the smaller markets but tough. My suggestion to those players is to be more exciting and draw attention to yourself if your so desparately want to be an all-star. Also, it's not strictly decided by fan voting. Pitchers are selected by the managers I think. And god knows who selects the managers.  | ||||
| Sir Okonkwo | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 5:53 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote:Exactly. Fan balloting is a popularity contest more than anything else, and most fans that vote don't follow baseball closely enough to see when the sentimental favorites aren't having All Star seasons. Vidro and Barrett smoke Alomar and Piazza so far this year. Same goes for I-Rod, who is leading all AL catchers, even though he's been injured for most of the year. I wouldn't eliminate fan balloting, though. It's a good way to get people involved in the game, and isn't the All Star game for the fans anyway? What I would like to see is the managers and players getting equal say in picking the teams. Doesn't the NFL do that?  Metal / Wrestling / Baseball Ninja / pr0n | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 7:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | The best example of this i've seen was some website, which is pushing people to vote for an all expos vs. twins all star game, as a statement against contraction. I'm all for anything that would make Bud $elig feel uneasy, but this is a bit extreme. I have no answers I am no hero, thats for sure But I do know one thing Where you are is where I belong Where you go is where I want to be. | ||||
| diceisgod I ALWAYS LOSE. | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 7:14 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 01 | I didn't vote for Piazza. Because he's a queer. | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 8:32 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Actually, as Jimbo put it, the bigger areas (NY, Chi, LA) aren't the one's that stuff ballots. Cinn, Cle, & Seattle are cities that I can think of that pushed all of their players. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (You gotta believe....) 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with PASSION 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team not finish below 10th in team hitting 3b. Learn how to run the bases 4. Mets win World Series | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 06-01-2002 @ 10:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Not that Im God, but the managers are determined by last year's World Series participants. Hence Joe Torre for the American League. Which he is of course the manager every year for the American League, and Bob Brenly for the National League.  | ||||
| Syndrummer LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!! | posted on 06-03-2002 @ 1:03 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | I think that the managers should pick the players, and let the fans pick the starters from that list. This way it lets the players from the smaller markets who deserve to be there play. | ||||
| Istink | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 2:22 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | The managers shouldn't have anything to do with picking of the all-star teams .... Right now, if I'm correct I believe they select the pitchers and the alternates .... .... Joe Torre might be in the World Series every year but I don't think that gives him the right to pick any of the players because he seems to load the team up with a bunch of yankees .... The Curse shall be lifted .... If there isn't a strike!! | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 2:30 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | quote: Right. He should pick just the players that you follow.
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| Istink | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 2:37 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | You just follow me around because you want to have sex with me don't you, BA .... You're a fag .... The Curse shall be lifted .... If there isn't a strike!! | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 2:48 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | You come in here and disrupt a perfectly civilized conversation about baseball in order to steer the conversation towards hardcore gay unprotected anal sex. But I'm the fag. OK.
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| Istink | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 3:02 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | I'm the one who came in here to state an opinion and you keep following my posts around with posts of your own .... So it kind of makes me wonder .... The Curse shall be lifted .... If there isn't a strike!! | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 3:06 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | quote: if this is a message board? You might be onto something there. Nice find!
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| 1888RUSTYTROMBONE It took me 3 minutes to edit nothing | posted on 06-10-2002 @ 1:34 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | It's popularity contest. That's all. Guys who should be on the team are not going to be there because you must have a player from each team. I vote for guys that should be in the game. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 06-17-2002 @ 10:12 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | Well here's how I voted: American League 1st Base C. Delgado 2nd Base A. Soriano Shortstop A. Rodriguez 3rd Base E. Chavez Catcher A.J. Pierzynski Outfield G. Anderson T. Hunter I. Suzuki National League 1st Base T. Helton 2nd Base J. Vidro Shortstop J. Rollins 3rd Base M. Lowell Catcher M. Piazza Outfield L. Berkman B. Bonds V. Guerrero
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| Kid Icarus | posted on 06-17-2002 @ 4:00 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jun. 02 | The thing I hate about this years balloting is the fans also pick two reserves. With the managers picking reserves it gave people who really deserved to make the team a chance. Now some fuckface like Mike Cameron is going to get voted onto the team when he totally blows. At least the managers still pick the pitchers. The Stupid Cupid | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-17-2002 @ 7:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | the managers don't pick the best players either; they often pick guys from their own team just to make them happy. The all-star game started out as a publicity event sponsored by the Chicago Tribune. All-Star teams were originally selected by the managers and the fans for the 1933 and 1934 games. From 1935 through 1946, managers selected the entire team for each league. From 1947 to 1957, fans chose the team's starters and the manager chose the pitchers and the remaining players. From 1958 through 1969, managers, players, and coaches made the All-Star Team selections. In 1970, the vote again returned to the fans. It's all about the money. It is, however, the only all-star game worth watching. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 4:07 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | My Votes: American League 1B: Paul Konerko 2B: Alfonso Soriano 3B: Shea Hillenbrand SS: Alex Rodriguez C: A.J Pierzynski OF: Ichiro Suzuki Torii Hunter Johnny Damon National League 1B: Todd Helton 2B: Luis Castillo 3B: Mike Lowell SS: Jimmy Rollins C: Mike Piazza OF: Barry Bonds Sammy Sosa Adam Dunn  Thanks to Austin for the pic 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with a passion 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win World Series 5. Win 22 out of the next 30 games (starting on June 15th) Crack Committee Members: Cluster F, Rageparty, Bloody Anus, DiamondDust, JayMohrMassage, HammerSavage, PeterDragon, and 1888RustyTrombone...the force is growing. This message was edited by Cluster F on 6-18-02 @ 4:18 PM | ||||
| JohnSlack
| posted on 06-18-2002 @ 7:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | quote: That's because it fits the theoretical "if so and so played together model" that fans love. No other team sport can you have players thrown together and still play well. Even though it is a team sport, its more a sum of individuals. Thats why there are so many trades in baseball too - you can just plug some guy in the next day after the trade and its like he's been there his whole career. Hell teams have players that don't even speak the same language or don't even know their teammates names.  "Philly: It's Camden - with a bell." - Jim Norton | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 8:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: That's part of it. However, it's also that Basketball all-stars play no defense. Hockey all-stars don't hit or check. Football pro-bowl is after the season, they don't really hit, and so much of football is teamwork (o-line, etc.). Before inter-league it was also a chance to see players / matchups you wouldn't usually see. Steve Carlton vs. Reggie Jackson, etc. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
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