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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Mets May Face Fine for Clemens Incident-NY TIMES | ||||
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| JohnSlack
| posted on 06-18-2002 @ 12:00 AM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01  | Mets May Face Fine for Clemens Incident http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/18/s...all/ 18SHEA.html Bob Watson, baseball's vice president for discipline, said yesterday that he would probably discipline the Mets for throwing behind the Yankees' Roger Clemens on Saturday. Watson said he would most likely announce fines in a day or two "on the part of everybody involved" on the Mets. He said he was not considering suspensions. Clemens pitched at Shea Stadium on Saturday for the first time since he hit Mike Piazza in the head with a pitch in 2000. He also threw a shattered bat toward Piazza during that season's World Series. Because National League rules require pitchers to bat, there was intense speculation before the game about whether the Mets would retaliate. Shawn Estes threw an 87-mile-an-hour fastball several inches behind Clemens's upper thigh on the first pitch of Clemens's first at-bat in the third inning. Clemens leaned back, smirked at Estes and touched the bill of his helmet. Both teams were warned and Clemens eventually struck out on a called third strike. Estes later smiled when he said that the first pitch to Clemens had missed its mark, without saying where he had intended to throw it. The Mets considered throwing at Clemens when he batted for the second time, in the sixth inning, but did not do so when Piazza declined to endorse the tactic. Clemens hit a double and was stranded at third. Watson and Ralph Nelson, baseball's vice president for umpiring, decided last week not to warn both teams about throwing at batters before the game, allowing the umpires to handle the situation. This essentially gave the Mets a free shot before they were warned. ____________________________________ _____ | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 1:00 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Shows how impartial that scumbag Watson is. How can you fine a team over this. Technically, he never hit Clemens, so nothing happened. The comments made after the game were no big deal either.  Thanks to Austin for the pic 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with a passion 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win World Series 5. Win 22 out of the next 30 games (starting on June 15th) Crack Committee Members: Cluster F, Rageparty, Bloody Anus, DiamondDust, JayMohrMassage, HammerSavage, PeterDragon, and 1888RustyTrombone...the force is growing. | ||||
| mikehern | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 6:38 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 02 | This is ludicrous. The whole thing was hype. The Yankees should be fined for failing to play well that game. Semper Liberi | ||||
| JohnSlack
| posted on 06-18-2002 @ 7:46 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | For once we agree - I think they have no business getting involved in these matters - the players can handle it on the field. quote: are you kidding? you don't pay attention much do you? He is so bitter at the yankees, he has sent some of the yankees letters about how they wear their pants, warning of fines (giambi for example) but gee manny ramirez or barry bonds doesn't get one..hmm.. The fact that they even looked into fining clemens for the bonds incident is absurd. Because some AP asshole decided to take a clemens-bonds college anctidote and add words and make it sound like he said he was going to hit him, doesn't even deserve a second thought. Jesus, that pitch was almost a strike.  "Philly: It's Camden - with a bell." - Jim Norton | ||||
| Menino | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 11:02 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | How come no one was calling Armando Benitez out to hit after he drilled Tino when he was on the Orioles? Oh and I'm still waiting for Glendon Rusch to hit also bec he drilled Tino in retaliation the next inning after Piazza was drilled. [Sarcasm]but of course only the mets are the poor victims [/Sarcasm] | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-18-2002 @ 11:09 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | This is a non-story. I don't mean you shouldn't have posted this - it is in the paper, I mean that fines today are so trivial as to be inconsequential. This is the kind of thing Congress does - they make a fancy resolution saying "doing bad things is bad". Watson wants to pretend that he is enforcing something. It is even possible that the Yankees complained that they were fined in the past, so Mets should now. I agree it should be dealt with on the field - it wasn't anything outrageous (like the Bert Campanaris bat throwing). Hopefully this is the last thing we ever hear about this incident.  2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 06-19-2002 @ 12:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Fine is appropriate. $750 to a mlb ballplayer is like throwing a penny in a fountain to the rest of us. | ||||
| Ferret | posted on 06-19-2002 @ 1:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: True, but its not the money, its the principle. They should just let the issue die.  | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 06-19-2002 @ 1:31 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | This is just plain stupid. Everyone knew what was going to happen. Some people were surprised that Estes didn't actually hit Clemens. It may have been for the better. There could have been a very ugly situation if Clemens did get hit by the pitch. A 90+ mph fastball as a retaliation for a retaliation could have gotten way out of hand. BTW, not being much of a baseball fan, I heard the story about what Clemens said about Bonds, about introducing himself to the plastic piece that Bonds wears on his arm. Clemens hit Bonds. Was there any action taken, or did Clemens get off free? Because if there was no action taken in that case, I don't think any action should be taken in this case. | ||||
| Cunt-Twat I'm not a Cockblocker, I'm a COCKSUCKER! | posted on 06-19-2002 @ 3:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | hey john, i can't tell from your posts, are you a mt fan? :-p :) WHO SAID I DON'T LOVE THE SLACKJAW?!? :) LETS GO METS, 2002!! | ||||
| JohnSlack
| posted on 06-19-2002 @ 3:34 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | quote: This is the proble. you didn't see what clemens said. You said the version manipulated by the AP. He said two seperate things: 1 "That he wanted to introduce himself real quick. [to bonds]." 2 the in a seperate sentance later he said " That big piece of plastic - we have to get barry to take that off and even things out a little." the AP retard did this - Clemens "wanted to introduce himself real quick" to "That big piece of plastic" notice how that 'to' is outside the quotes? because roger didn't say it! Its all about selling papers. | ||||
| Crimson Mask | posted on 06-19-2002 @ 3:48 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Apr. 02 | This is just bullshit. Getting fined for attempting to hit a player. I've been a Mets fan my hole life, and they cant DO ANYTHING RIGHT, EEVVEEEEERRRRRRR. Since they got fined anyway Estes should have beaned Clemons rite in his fucking face (no just a shot to his leg woula been fine to get the point across). Its protecting his teamates and about every other player in the league that peice of shit Clemons has always been a headhunter. The thing is Shawn Estes has a little something called Class, something Clemons and basically the entire Yankees organization have never had. | ||||
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