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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Rangers done with Richter want Cujo to replace him | ||||
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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 12:23 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | :mad: June 21, 2002 -- TORONTO - The curtain is about to close on Broadway's Mike Richter Show. Well-placed sources have told The Post the Rangers will not present Richter with a bona fide contract offer prior to July 1, instead having set their sights on Toronto's presumptive Group III goaltender Curtis Joseph. Richter, who joined the Rangers during the 1989 playoffs and who holds nearly every meaningful goaltending record in franchise history, will be asked to take a substantial pay cut by GM Glen Sather, who will make the offer knowing it will be rejected. The truth is - and Richter has been well aware of this for some time - Sather believes the team needs an upgrade in nets. The truth, though unspoken by either Richter or his agent, Mike Gillis, also is that No. 35 believes it is time to seek a new environment, one in which he will be appreciated by management, one in which he can re-establish himself after five straight years of missing the playoffs. Though Sather last month suggested in conversations with rival general managers that he would be looking for a mid-level goaltender to split chores with 19-year-old sophomore Dan Blackburn, the GM has reversed course dramatically and will seek to sign Joseph, who, at 35, is seven months younger than Richter and is expected to officially cut ties with the Maple Leafs on Monday. The Rangers will need an elite goaltender in place no later than mid-day of July 1 in order to attract Bobby Holik and either Tony Amonte or Billy Guerin. While Cujo certainly fits that definition, the strategy of pursuing him is fraught with risk. If Sather cannot sign Joseph - who likely will want a four-year, $36 million deal to come to Broadway - he not only will be left with a considerable hole in nets, the domino effect of that failure will cost him every select free agent on the market, as well. The Rangers are likely to face their most severe competition for Joseph from the Red Wings, who expect Dominik Hasek to announce his retirement early next week. It is not known whether Joseph would be willing to lower his asking price in Detroit to gain the opportunity to win his first Stanley Cup. The Red Wings also are expected to be in on the auction for Holik. The Devils - who, according to multiple sources, replaced head coach Kevin Constantine with Pat Burns specifically to increase their chances of keeping their franchise center - are spreading the gospel that they will match any offer Holik receives on the open market. The Blues, Flyers, Red Wings, Maple Leafs and Bruins all are expected to be interested in Richter, who is coming off the four-year, $21.7M deal he signed after becoming a free agent in the summer of 1999. * The Rangers are set to announce the hiring of folk hero Nick Fotiu as an assistant coach in Hartford. And while the decision has not been finalized, WHL Kootenay coach Ryan McGill is the front-runner to replace John Paddock as head coach of the Wolf Pack.  | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 1:15 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Just remember how often Larry Brooks is wrong. I think Sather will offer a moderate contract to Richter, and wait and see if what happens. I like Richter, but Philly will have a very good chance to steal him. Rangers need more than him. If you want a really good rumor, Newsday threw out possibility of Theo Fleury joining Yashin on the island.  2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) This message was edited by PeterDragon on 6-22-02 @ 10:46 AM | ||||
| Syndrummer LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!! | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 1:27 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO What-replace one aging goalie with another? If The Rangers are not going to use their younger goalies, why get rid of Richter? Its not like CuJo is the difference between the playoffs or golfing. This world rejects me This world threw me away This world never gave me a chance This worlds gonna have to pay -Do you believe in fate?- | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 6:08 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | I am an Islander fan, first and foremost, so let me get that out of the way so I can be bashed mercilessly by all Ranger fans here :-D. Anyway, you know the Rangers do one smart move, and totally ruin it by a more idiotic move than they could've done with the other decision. Getting rid of Richter is SMART. They need to clean house of anyTHING associated with 1994. If there is a couch in the locker room that was there in '94, that has to go, too. The franchise's attitude has been to pay too much homage to '94 without thinking about now. '94 was nice and all, but it was eight years ago. Can Richter. Can Messier, unless he wants to go to the coaching staff (he should go first, before anyone, with the embarrassment on ice he has become). And can Leetch, whose trade value keeps on dropping with every hockey game he plays. Get rid of him while you can get something decent. Change the attitude of the franchise around. These guys were great Rangers and all (and I admit as an Islander fan I was extremely jealous of the great moments they gave you bastard Ranger fans who didn't deserve a single second of it :-p) but, you know, the Yankees canned Tino Martinez, Brosius and Knoblauch and, though out of their control, O'Neil to boot. AND THAT WAS THE YEAR AFTER THEY LOST GAME 7 BECAUSE ALLY MCBEAL CAN'T THROW TO SECOND. You guys miss the playoffs 234 years in a row (123 less than the Isles before this past season) and the guys who've led your teams to mediocrity get honored and put on a pedestal still because they led them to greatness 8 fucking years ago. It is so incredibly asinine, I think even Ranger fans have to laugh at such a joke of an organization. So, yeah, Richter and a few others must go. But, then you try to get CuJo. WTF? If you're gonna get an injury prone 567 year old to overpay at goalie, you might as well keep the guy who was here. Yeah, it totally goes against my theory above, but getting CuJo doesn't go with my theory either. Get YOUNG blood in, will you? Any organization with half a brain would go out and get a Garth Snow veteran type goalie to sort of platoon and help Blackburn move along for the next couple years til he's ready to be full time, and when he is, he'll be as good as Richter in his prime, cuz that kid looks GOOD with a capital G, even though I already capitalized it. So, if ytou're a Ranger fan, hope Brooks is half right. Hope the Richter part is right and the CuJo part wrong. Of course, there are some Ranger fans who are still blinded by the light of 1994 and don't want to let go and want to kill me for even insinuating they should trade Leetch or let Richter walk, but then, they are Ranger fans, so I can't expect them to be that smart. 1. 94 Wins and the NL East title 2. Hate the Braves with a passion. 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win the World Series | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 6:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Sather is really getting on my nerves. He has done nothing here in 2 years, and now he is showing the door to one of, if not the Greatest Goaltender the Franchise has ever seen, so that he can go after Curtis Joseph, who doesnt have the playoff track record that Mike Richter has. Also Mike Richter would be a better guy to be a mentor to Dan Blackburn than Curtis Joseph will. I dont know what this guy is doing, but he hasnt done much in his 2 year tenure here. And if this team doesnt make the playoffs again next year, thats it for him.  | ||||
| MrQuotes NO!!! You can't have any smiley faces in your status!!! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Missile Command | posted on 06-21-2002 @ 8:21 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | jesus christ and i thought that bobby clarke was the worst GM ever larry brooks may be one of the least reliable sources around, but i hope that that holik comment holds to truth(up until 7 million that is)
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| Francine Banger | posted on 06-22-2002 @ 2:39 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Congratulations, you made about 8 different points in this paragraph and each one couldnt be more wrong than the other. But its 2:40 and Im wasted, so Im not bothering going into why your an idiot. Stick to your Icelanders, Im going to bed. | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 06-22-2002 @ 10:55 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Dust, Nonsense. Yeah, you don't necessarily keep living in the past, but if a player can still help you, you keep him. Trade Leetch? it depends what you can get, but you don't dump him yet just to dump him. Since there is no salary cap, keep Richter as long as he doesn't mind teaching / sharing time with Blackburn. The old sports addage is "better to trade one year too early than one year too late". I've also heard Byron Dafoe's name associated with Rangers. The Key is whichever veteran around doesn't impede Blackburn's development. 2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....) 1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice 1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play 2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base. 4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention) | ||||
| Menino | posted on 06-23-2002 @ 12:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: are you high man? they need to get rid of anything associated with 1997-2002. rangers need winning players on the team not losers. having players who know what it takes to win is key. I wouldn't get rid of Richter, goaltending isnt the problem. They need to focus on defense. Theres still a long way to go in the offseason. | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 06-25-2002 @ 10:08 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Well, gee, Menino, I must really be high, seeing as the same guys who are here now that were here in 1994 were in by facto here in 1997-2002. 1. 94 Wins and the NL East title 2. Hate the Braves with a passion. 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win the World Series This message was edited by Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! on 6-25-02 @ 10:11 AM | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 06-25-2002 @ 11:50 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | Another Islander fan's take on this: I really don't think Cujo is the answer. Four years for $36 million? The pressure on him will be incredible. Then, even after not picking up options on Bryan Berard or Theo Fleury, their payroll will be higher, with the additions of Cujo, Holik, Amonte and/or Guerin. Plus, as the article said, Detroit is also looking at Cujo and Holik. And Cujo may take a pay cut in order to play for Detroit, since they have a much better chance of winning the Stanley Cup. The Rangers better have a really good plan for getting Cujo. If they don't, they are fucked on two levels: 1. Without Richter or Cujo, they will only have Dan Backburn in net. Now, he will be very, very good in the future, but right now I doubt he will be able to handle the pressure. 2. Without a name goalie in position, I doubt any of the big name free agents will to attracted to the Rangers. And they will be in a deeper hole. Sather has really done nothing since he got there. 5 consecutive years out of the playoffs. For his sake, Sather better get Cujo, or else his head will be on the chopping block. | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 06-25-2002 @ 2:17 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | Is Cujo really that good?? I don't think he'll be able to fix the Rangers problems anyway. I bet he's going to suck next year. Richter is way better than Joseph! Can Cujo stop 40 shots a night on a regular basis?? Sadly we might find out...:( Life Isn't | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 06-25-2002 @ 4:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: Only Brian Leetch and Mike Ricther were here in 94, and from 97-2002. So I guess you are high | ||||
| Menino | posted on 06-25-2002 @ 9:52 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | the problem with the rangers isn't the holdovers from the 94 team. Of course those players arent what they used to be but theyre not keeping the rangers from the playoffs. Players like nedved, karpa, the neil smith free agent class of busts, those are the reasons the rangers are in this state. hopefully with Bure and Lindros it will turn things around | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 06-27-2002 @ 10:56 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: And what exactly have they done for you since 1997? And what about the other guys who have come back? Messier is really lighting it up at the age of 50. Hey, you wanna keep the same mindset of, "Let's follow Leetch and Messier cuz they've won here before" by the other players on the team that leads to mediocrity because they are either too often injured (Messier, Richter) or shells of their former selves (Leetch, Messier), then fine go ahead. Especially in the case of Messier, by keeping him and Leetch and Richter on the same squad, it means that those guys in particular follow what Messier say because they love him so much. So, you have guys listening to a third string player, which is what he amounts to at this point. no team wins listening to third string players. But, you know what, Ranger fans, if you're gonna defend those guys to the top of the mountains, and that leads to a public outcry that forces the Rangers to keep them, then good. I WANT you to keep them. It makes you scratch your heads even more when you lose. "But we have LEETCH and DA CAPTAIN IS BACK! WE CAN'T LOSE WITH THEM!" 1. 94 Wins and the NL East title 2. Hate the Braves with a passion. 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win the World Series | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 06-27-2002 @ 11:20 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Messier should retire and be an assistant coach. Leetch is still one of the top offensive defensemen. And Richter should play less and let Blackburn play more, but Richter has stood on his fucking head for this team who has the worst defense in the entire NHL. | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 06-27-2002 @ 11:31 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | The problem isn't with the goalies, it's with the team in front of them. Jesus Christ himself would have a hard time in net for the Rangers. Like TeenWeek said, Richter has stood on his head for the team, keeping them in games when they should have been blown out. The management has to realize that if they built up their defense, then Richter wouldn't have to make incredible saves every night. Build up the defense, improve the PK, and the Rangers don't need Cujo. Richter will do just fine and the Rangers will make the playoffs again. | ||||
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