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Mel Gibson\'s Passion - header - 02-25-2004
I was gonna see it this weekend but opted for Euro trip instead. Gotta wait a month to see it now.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - Sloats - 02-25-2004
Quote:Originally posted by The Brain
Quote:Originally posted by Sloats<i>Then one of the Twelve, who was called Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests and said, "What are you willing to give me if I hand him over to you?" They paid him thirty pieces of silver, and from that time on he looked for an opportunity to hand him over.</i>
Judas was a good friend of Jesus and not a betrayer. Messengers customarily were paid a fee and Jesus sent Judas to summon the temple guards who were looking for him. Judas was not paid a fee to betray Jesus.
-- Matthew 26:14-16
<i>Now the feast of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was drawing near, and the chief priests and the scribes were seeking a way to put him to death, for they were afraid of the people. Then Satan entered into Judas, the one surnamed Iscariot, who was counted among the Twelve, and he went to the chief priests and temple guards to discuss a plan for handing him over to them. They were pleased and agreed to pay him money. He accepted their offer and sought a favorable opportunity to hand him over to them in the absense of a crowd.</i>
-- Luke 22:1-6
<i>Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went off to the chief priests to hand him over to them. When they heard him they were pleased and promised to pay him money. Then he looked for an opportunity to hand him over.</i>
-- Mark 14:10-11
Only the book of John omits the actual transaction of Judas accepting money to surrender Jesus to the Jewish priests, but he does state: <i>The devil had already induced Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot, to hand him over</i> (Jn. 13:2).
And if you read the passages preceding the Last Supper narratives, Jesus always says "Amen, I say onto you, one of you will betray me" (or words to that effect).
[by the way, those passages are <b>Mt. 26:20-25</b>, <b>Mk. 14:17-21</b>, <b>Lk. 22:21-23</b>, and <b>Jn. 13:21-30</b>]
Passages written 100 years later and choosen by the council of Nicea to put forward the most collaborative story. Where's Rufus?
And we won't go into the whole Mary Magadline story, which I did hear about before "Davinci Code". There is comments in the Dead Sea scrolls that he was closer to her than any of the apostles, and I mean that emotionally.
I personally don't trust the Bible as an accurate historical account simply because I do not trust the early church and how it handled heresy. If Jesus was black, that truth would have been crushed by an European-based council. I also believe that many of the translations have been made to fit the European culture. The story about the manger and no room in the inn fits nicely to a European culture of traveling from town to town with animals sleeping in different buildings. But back 2000 years ago, there is evidence that a family's animals may have slept on the ground floor and the people above them. A simple mistranslation of a Greek word to hotel instead of "the upstairs or human quarters" offers a romantic image of Jesus being born alone in a stable instead of an overcrowded extended family domicile.
I claim none of these as facts, just thoughts and further examples of the white man keeping everyone down.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - header - 02-25-2004
Agree.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - GMANN - 02-25-2004
Quote:Originally posted by Jimbo
i wonder if Jesus escapes this time.
They kill him at the end of the movie......
but he comes back in the next one!
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - header - 02-25-2004
Shit.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - Jimbo - 02-25-2004
does that mean haley joe osmond will be starring in the sequel?
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - TheDude - 02-25-2004
Passion Part 2 "Electric Boogaloo"
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - Sloats - 02-25-2004
Quote:Originally posted by TheDude
Passion Part 2 \"Electric Boogaloo\"
More like:
Passion 2: Jesus strikes back.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - header - 02-25-2004
When Jesuses attack, on Fox.
Mel Gibson\'s Passion - Sloats - 02-25-2004
Jesus' Bogus Journey.