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Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - JimmyBlueEyes - 08-28-2003
Port Authority to release tapes
I'm kind of mixed about this. As some of you know, I took phone calls from inside the towers on the 11th. I was probably the last person many of these people spoke to. While they aren't releasing the FDNY audio tapes(phone calls, radio traffic, etc.), I'm not too sure anyone wants to hear me answer the phone, say Fire Department, and be told, Never mind, he just jumped.
It's coming up on two years since it happened. While I will never forget the loss of the innocents and of a number of my friends, I'm not sure it's a good idea to be releasing this stuff in the name of freedom of information. Not sure if people want the wounds reopened and the scars driven deeper. Discuss, folks.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - FollowThisLogic - 08-28-2003
Though this may be painful to those who lost people, I think overall, it's a good thing.
This country moved on way too easily. We don't see it as much, because we were surrounded by it every day. Not just on the news, but EVERYWHERE.
We may still be paranoid about our city, but the rest of the country moved on, and this may be a good wake-up call. They shouldn't forget. And anyone here who forgot, needs it too.
I was in the city on the 11th...... on the 12th, I was at my company's (at the time) office in Lakewood, NJ. 75 miles or so out of the city. And no lie, it was <b>BUSINESS AS USUAL</b>. All I wanted to do was discuss what I had seen, still trying to make sense of it all in my head..... not a single person gave a shit. It was over. They were done. It made me sick.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - JimmyBlueEyes - 08-28-2003
For those people, it was probably one of two things, either it didn't affect them personally, like the loss of a loved one, or they were in shock and needed to keep working to keep from thinking of it. I worked the night after, and while it was nowhere near business as usual, we had to keep working to keep myself from going over all of it in my head over n over. I have to admit I don't blame them. It was probably business as usual for us when they had the bombing in Oklahoma City 8 years ago. I think what upset me the most out of all of it was a few nights after, they had a candlelight vigil in the park near my moms' house upstate. I was walking out and there were three kids who walked past me with candles. I asked them what the candles were for and they really didn't have an answer for me. I went off on them about marching for reasons they didn't know about. Was I wrong?? Probably, but I needed to vent somehow. So I can understand how the people you worked with were acting.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - FollowThisLogic - 08-28-2003
Nah, it was different, they just didn't get it. I tried talking about it with them..... it just didn't affect them at all. Just buildings... nothing special. Lots of people, yeah, tragedy, oh well.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - SO - 08-28-2003
Out of curiosity, how did they feel about "Shock and Awe"?
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - Ronin - 08-28-2003
i don't think the transcripts have to be released.. why do people want to see this stuff? what benefit is there for this?
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - Rooner - 08-28-2003
i think reminding people of why we are where are in international relations is a good reason to release these tapes. People have DEFINITELY forgotten the pain and anger and fear that the attacks caused. I think those feelings need to be brought back up, because the make alot of whats going on in the world today relevant. It wouldnt be neccesary if this country had more than a 30 second attention span. Have you all seen THIS bullshit?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34223
Group celebrates 'Magnificent 19' hijackers
British Islamists bent on global conquest plan 9-11 conference
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Posted: August 23, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A group operating openly in Britain that regards itself as a front line for global Islamic conquest, is planning a conference to celebrate the anniversary of America's "comeuppance" on Sept. 11, 2001.
Two years after the attacks on New York and the Pentagon, "Muslims worldwide will again be watching replays of the collapse of the Twin Towers, praying to Allah … to grant those magnificent 19 Paradise," says the group, Al-Muhajiroun, on its English-language website.
Poster for 2003 conference
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Al-Muhajiroun was founded in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in 1983 by a Syrian cleric, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, who was expelled from Saudi Arabia and has lived in London since 1986 despite an unsuccessful appeal for asylum.
The group fashions itself in the UK as a pressure group seeking to uphold the rights of Muslim citizens. But its website clearly details its stated aim to re-establish the "Khilafa," or world Islamic state, which it contends was destroyed by imperialist Europe.
A terrorist who blew himself up in Tel Aviv on April 29, Asif Hanif, and his accomplice, Omar Khan Sharif, had ties to Al-Muhajiroun, according to British authorities.
Al-Mujahiroun's British leader, Anjem Choudary, has claimed the organization has a worldwide following, with 30 offices across Britain and others in Pakistan, Kuwait, France, South Africa, Lebanon, Bangladesh, Mauritius, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Algeria, according to the London Telegraph.
Shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, Choudary said Al-Muhajiroun represented a much more mainstream Muslim agenda than admitted by other Islamic groups in the country.
"It is they who are sold out and secular. We are the ones who have not compromised our Islamic faith," he said, according to the Telegraph.
In its press release about the upcoming Sept. 11 conference, the group said Muslims worldwide will be praying "for the reverberations" of 9-11 "to continue until the eradication of all man-made law and the implementation of divine law in the form of the Khilafah -- carrying the message of Islam to the world and striving for Izhar ud-Deen, i.e. the total domination of the world by Islam."
Poster for 2002 conference
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Al-Muhajiroun held a similar meeting of clerics Sept. 11, 2002 at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, where they launched the Islamic Council of Britain, which seeks to implement Shariah, or Islamic law in the UK.
Mohammed, who has been investigated by Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist squad for anti-semitic statements, said at the time, "The people at this conference look at September 11 like a battle, as a great achievement by the mujahideen against the evil superpower."
The group said Muslims will celebrate Sept. 11 this year, rejoicing the U.S. got its "comeuppance for atrocities" it has committed, "and indeed continues to commit, against Muslims."
Afghanistan and Iraq are the most recent examples, the statement said.
"With thousands of innocent Muslims still in captivity under barbaric conditions in Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. inquisition against Islam and Muslims shows no signs of subsiding," the group said. "In contrast, the operations being carried out by the Mujahideen against the occupiers in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya and in Afghanistan have also been stepped up to meet the menace led by the U.S. and UK regimes."
The organization said since Sept. 11, 2001, Muslims have noted the "objective of living under the Shariah and ridding all Muslim land not only of the occupiers, but also the dictatorial regimes and the secularists, has gained massive momentum. From Indonesia and Malaysia to Yemen and Nigeria, the call for the return of the Khilafah system, of ruling solely by the Shariah, can be heard."
Al-Muhajroun said, "The hatred towards the U.S. and UK, and their evil plans to crush Islam and Muslims, and to force a washed-down version of Islam on Muslims, similar to Christianity, has backfired, and instead, more and more Muslims are queuing up to fight Jihad and are willing to die to see the domination of divine law over man made law."
"The willingness to die," the group said, "can be seen in the face of those like Imam Samudra, who was recently given the death penalty for his involvement in the Bali bombings, and yet, when the verdict was handed out, he celebrated his upcoming martyrdom (insha'allah) in the way of Allah."
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - BITENY - 08-28-2003
Quote:Originally posted by FollowThisLogic
Nah, it was different, they just didn't get it. I tried talking about it with them..... it just didn't affect them at all. Just buildings... nothing special. Lots of people, yeah, tragedy, oh well.
I was working that day (in this shitty photo company mind you), and when it was all going down, and everyone was going home, my stupid boss & another woman at my job was like "You can all go home, but there's no trains running. If I were you, I'd stay here & work..."
I was like "fuck you I'm leaving" and I did just that.
The next day, I call the office to see if anyone actually showed up, because I sure as hell was not coming into work the next day...and low & behold, my boss- the fucking camel jockey cocksucker CEO was sitting in his office dilly daddling away, talking to me on the phone like it was no big fucking deal...He also lived 10 mins from the office....He actually showed up there- the next fucking day to do work!!!!!!!!!!!
Sept 13th, I returned to work, feeling 100% uncomfortable & not being able to concentrate. I so didnt wanna be there, and I really wanted to leave. But I didnt. I dont know why I didnt.
My friend Jay didnt return to work until a week & a 1/2 later. He works right there, and I think he was honestly traumatized by it, and I dont blame him. Being that close can really fuck with someone.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - sweet angel - 08-28-2003
I live in south Jersey (okay, maybe south central Jersey), and I was affected by it. I heard the reports on the radio as I was pulling into the parking lot at work. I had the radio on all day until I finally just left at noon. I stopped at my son's school to pick him up...they hadn't told the kids anything and then went home to watch the coverage. I know a few people who work in the city (not close friends, but acquaintances) and I immediately thought of them. Thank God, no one I knew was hurt.
I'm not sure why it hit me so hard, whether it was because I'm about a mile from a power plant, it made me think that you're really not "safe" anywhere, or maybe I just felt the need to panic.
I went to the one year memorial in town.
This year, September 11 is "back to school night" at my son's school. When I found out, I thought that was a bit strange. I guess they won't be having a memorial.
I'm surprised that so many people are so cavalier about the whole thing.
I think if they want to release the tapes, fine. Make them available, but there's no need to shove them down the throats of anyone who doesn't want to hear/see. If someone feels they would be comforted by it, by all means, listen. But if it would just open up old wounds, then don't.
Port Authority to Release Sept. 11th Transcripts - BITENY - 08-28-2003
Me personally, I can go without hearing those transcripts. It was bad enough seeing the images of people falling, now the phone calls? Hell no. Too fucking eerie for me.