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Indiana Detroit Brawl - Subzero316 - 11-20-2004
[/quote]By LARRY LAGE, AP Sports Writer
November 20, 2004
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) -- Fists were flying. So were cups, plastic bottles and even a chair in one of the ugliest NBA brawls ever -- and Indiana's Ron Artest was right in the middle of it.
Artest and Stephen Jackson charged into the stands and fought with fans in the final minute of their game against the Detroit Pistons on Friday night, and the brawl forced an early end to the Pacers' 97-82 win.
Officials stopped the game with 45.9 seconds remaining after pushing and shoving between the teams spilled into the stands once fans got involved by throwing things at the players near the scorer's table.
``It's the ugliest thing I've seen as a coach or player,'' said Pistons coach Larry Brown, who was in the middle of the confrontation, trying to break it up.
After several minutes of players fighting with fans in the stands, a chair, beer, ice, and popcorn were thrown at the Pacers as they made their way to the locker room in one of the scariest brawls in an NBA game.
``I felt like I was fighting for my life out there,'' Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. ``I'm sorry the game had to end this way.''
The Palace announcer said the game was being stopped and pleaded with fans not to throw things.
It all started when Detroit's Ben Wallace went in for a layup and was fouled hard by Artest from behind, and escalated when Artest stormed into the stands after being hit by a full cup.
After being fouled, Wallace wheeled around and pushed Artest in the face. The benches emptied and punches were thrown.
As the players continued shoving each other near center court and coaches tried to restore order, Artest sprawled out on his back on the scorer's table, looking relaxed.
Just when it appeared tempers had died down, Artest was struck by a cup and beverage thrown from the stands. He jumped up, and charged into the stands, throwing punches as he climbed over seats.
Fans were punching back, and Jackson and another teammate joined Artest in the melee.
``I was worried about Stephen Jackson and Artest, as silly as they were acting,'' Brown said.
Security personnel and ushers tried to break up the fighting. Former Pistons player Rick Mahorn, who was seated courtside as a Detroit radio analyst, tried to stop the brawl in the stands.
``The police investigation is ongoing and that's it,'' said Pistons spokesman Matt Dobek, who refused to further comment .
Detroit's Rasheed Wallace and Indiana's David Harrison were also in or near the stands. Both were trying to break up the fights.
Later, a man in a Pistons jersey approached Artest on the court, shouting at him. Artest punched him in the face, knocking the man to the floor before leaving the court. Artest was pulled away, and the fan charged back. Jermaine O'Neal stepped in and punched the man.
``The NBA is withholding comment until it can review the incident,'' NBA spokesman Tim Frank said.
Players from both teams left the arena without comment.
Quentin Richardson of the Phoenix Suns watched the brawl on television.
``I have never seen a fight like that in a game since I was in high school,'' he said. ``Man, there are going to be some lawsuits. You don't think some of those fans aren't going to want some NBA money?''
Lamar Odom of the Lakers saw it for the first time as he was being interviewed.
``Whoooo. When you see things like that, just think about what it takes for NBA players to go into a crowd,'' Odom said. ``Sometimes fans get kind of out of hand, but it must have taken a lot for NBA players to go into a crowd and start a fight.''
Police prevented reporters from crossing the loading dock to get to Indiana's locker room or the area where the Pacers' bus was located.
``I'm just embarrassed for our league and disappointed for our young people to see that,'' Brown said.
Artest has been involved in some bizarre situations, but his latest antics topped them all.
Earlier this month, he was benched for two games for asking Carlisle for time off because of a busy schedule that included promoting a soon-to-be released rap album.
Artest also destroyed television monitors at Madison Square Garden two years ago and missed the team flight to Game 6 of the Eastern Conference finals at Detroit last season.
He has proved to be as talented as he is unpredictable.
Before the contest was stopped, Artest had quite a game and the Pacers were dominating the defending NBA champions in their first meeting since the Eastern Conference finals.
Artest scored 17 of his 24 points in the first quarter and the Pacers led by 20 in the second. Detroit used a 9-0 outburst early in the fourth quarter to close within 82-77.
The Pacers put the game away when Austin Croshere and Jackson made 3-pointers on consecutive possessions to push their lead to 12 points with 4:31 left.
Despite the lopsided score in the final minute, most of the key players for both teams were still in the game.
The contest drew a capacity crowd of 22,076, but it had thinned toward the end of the game as the Pacers pulled away.
Richard Hamilton led the Pistons with 20 points.
Indiana (7-2) has the best record in the East and the Pistons fell to 4-4.
The Pacers' next game is Saturday night at home against Orlando. Detroit hosts Charlotte on Sunday.
Notes
Musical artist Kid Rock and Chris Chelios of the Red Wings sat next to each other at courtside. ``That was unbelievable,'' Chelios said after the game.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - diceisgod - 11-20-2004
Send them all back to the jungle.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - RapeFantasizer - 11-20-2004
I saw it when it happened, what a moron this guy is. 1st he left the nba to go work on his rap album for a month, now he attacks a fan. He needs to be kicked out of the league.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - jewdown - 11-20-2004
Quote:Originally posted by diceisgod
Send them all back to the jungle.
If it wasn't for the nba & nfl most of em would be in jail.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - diceisgod - 11-20-2004
This is what we want to see. I watched that shit like 10 times already and I'm going to watch it again and so are a lot of people. In the old days we'd just unshackle them and throw them in a pit and let them brawl while we placed bets. The NBA and NFL is just overblown fanfare for the real show.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - Hasegawa - 11-21-2004
Bullshit, if I threw a plastic cup of beer at you, you'd wanna beat my ass too.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - madmick - 11-21-2004
Not if I was being paid millions to play a game. I'd walk off to the locker room and when asked why, I'd demand security did their fucking job.
Indiana Detroit Brawl - Subzero316 - 11-23-2004
Commissioner issues nine suspensions, harshest to Artest
Indiana Detroit Brawl - Sloats - 11-23-2004
Quote:Originally posted by Hasegawa
Bullshit, if I threw a plastic cup of beer at you, you'd wanna beat my ass too.
If we met you in person, we would want to kick your ass....
Indiana Detroit Brawl - Subzero316 - 12-01-2004
These two fans wont be going back to the palace anytime soon.
Quote:2 Banned From Detroit Arena Over NBA Brawl
Two men were banned from events at The Palace for what the Detroit Pistons say is their involvement in last month's NBA brawl.
John Green and Charlie Haddad were sent letters informing them of the ban, which also includes events at DTE Energy Music Theatre in Clarkston, Pistons spokesman Matt Dobek said Wednesday. The Clarkston site is another holding of the Palace Sports and Entertainment organization.
Apart from Pistons games, the Palace hosts figure skating competitions and concerts. The DTE Energy Music Theatre holds concerts.
Green, of Oakland County's West Bloomfield Township, is accused of lobbing a cup at Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest on Nov. 19, sparking the brawl. Haddad, of Burt, ran onto the court that night, Dobek said.
\"They're completely picking on the little guy,\" Shawn Smith, Green's lawyer, said Wednesday.
The brawl spilled into the stands and led to three Indiana players being suspended for 25 or more games, including a season-long ban for Artest.
There is no telephone listing for Haddadd.
No criminal charges have been filed in the brawl. Oakland County prosecutor David Gorcyca said Tuesday police must finish their investigation first.
\"It is obvious from the multitude of videotapes that numerous Pacer players and fans are implicated in criminal wrongdoing,\" Gorcyca said in a statement. \"To issue charges in haste and before a thorough investigation is completed would be irresponsible and a dereliction of our duties.\"
Gorcyca had told The Detroit News that Pacers players will be charged, but declined to specify the players or charges.