Bush Winning the War on Terror

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Originally posted by Black Lazerus


Sorry I must have missed that in that convoluted mess you called a post.

First off we know that Afghanistan was responsible for the attacks on 9/11.

(WRONG! Afghanistan didn't attack us on 9/11. Al Quada attacked us)

We should have concentrated on Invading Afganistan and converting it into a democratic country.
We would have showed them the might of our army and showed the futility of attacking us.

Then we should have rebuilt the country and showed them how prosperous they would become if they cooperated with us and handled things in a respectful manner.

(no shit shelock, this is what we're doing in the middle east!)

The Afghan people were sidelined on all of this. They weren't supporting terror, their govt, run by a select few were.

The notion that we go in all guns blazing was the worst answer--a waste of resources. The President was right to go in and operate a selective proxy-special forces war, because the enemy wasn't a govt and its people, it was a few random thugs entrenched in power and operating in the shadows. Just as it had been reported in November 2001, it's going to be more Rambo then Guns of Navarone, therefore the "funding the war in Iraq" is not really an issue. It's all detective work and special ops in Afghanistan now.

Afghanistan was were the attack against terror took place first because the Taliban, a fundamentalist govt. is/was involved in hiding Usama Bin Laden and supporting, harboring and recruiting of islamic terror cells.

Usama Bin Laden has not been found in Afganhistan. So you want to continue with this bull about the unjustified reasons of war with Iraq? We didn't find Bin Laden in Afghanistan, we haven't found the oh so important WMD's. I guess we had no justification to invade either country huh?

Our reasons to go to war with Iraq was because in the wake of 9/11, previous intellegence had been going around that Saddam had been trying to re-start a nuclear program (originally thwarted in '82 by Israel) and was also harboring terror cells with intent to use chemical weapons against US interests (Israel, Kuwait, as well as other OPEC nations, and the US itself). Despite several attempts asking the UN to cooperate with us in stopping a bad situation from getting worse, the UN failed to support us. Why? Oil. The UN oil for food program instituted in 1996 by the UN as a humanitarian effort was abused by influential UN countries such as France, Germany and Russia as well as other OPEC nations among others. These countries were violating sanctions against Iraq and the guidlines of this UN oil-for-food program itself. The profits that was "supposed" to help feed the people was being used by Saddam's regime to re-build military and replenish their arsenal. As well as fund the nuclear research and Saddam's hopes to obtain a nuclear weapon.

You simply cannot allow a madman leader of a military dictatorship to have a weapon of mass destruction especially in the wake of 9/11. Therefore...we have the justification to go to war. Better to do it now instead of 10 yrs from now when Sadaam has his Russian or Korean rocket already in its silo.

What dragged us into this war? UN failures post Gulf War, failures to the people of Iraq.

This whole nonsense about a war over oil? Totally true... but guess what!?! The UN is the only defending oil! OPEC nations around that region where buying up Iraqi oil production for little and selling it for their own profit, in turn they would not side with the US and its allies efforts to invade Iraq. The US and allies made sure that they would safeguard the oil production facilities first. Not for our gain. For the people of Iraq's gain, it's economy depends on it. It is its only resource. It's all they have. When we took control of the Iraqi oil, all the nations that were abusing the food-for-oil as well as the opec nations getting oil for pennies and turning it for huge profit all took a mighty economic blow. How do they respond? OPEC nations respond with slowing down production and driving the price of oil up. The UN responds with indifference over the war in Iraq.

Also, Saddam held France and Russia's involvement in black market oil deals against them. Saddam would have made sure that if these two countries especially France was approved of the Iraq invasion the French gov't (Chirac) would be exposed, and the loss of power as well as its standing in the EU and world community was far too great.