Bars in NYC to close at 1:00am???

[Silera]

See-Saw.

[IrishAlkey]

Splinters?

[Suzie]

This appeared on page six of the New
York Post:

January 30, 2004 -- BAR and nightclub owners are in an uproar over a
proposal that would require a "nightlife license" to stay open after1 a.m.
City Consumer Affairs Commissioner Gretchen Dykstra is pushing a plan
that would require a special two-year license for any nightspot with a
capacity of 75 or more where the music would be 90 decibels or higher. A
place would be padlocked for up to 10 days after three noise or other license
violations.

David Rabin, president of the New York Nightlife Assn. and co-owner of
Lotus, says Dykstra's plan would let the city effectively shut bars
and nightclubs down at 1 a.m. "This bill will end up closing New York at 1
a.m.," Rabin warned. "It's no longer going to be the city that never
sleeps. We're united on this - everyone from the little bars to the biggest
nightclubs. The best-run bar in the universe could not stay open
under the conditions in this proposal."

Please take a moment and go to the link below and send Gretchen Dykstra a
message in regard to this issue:

Please file a complaint under "Opinions on NYC Cabaret Laws"

[The Brain]

Originally posted by JimmyBlueEyes
I don't see how this is going to work. Most of the parties, good ones, start at 1am. Look at the bright side. Most bars in England get shut down at 11pm...

Yeah, but isn't that somewhat partly caused by their fabled London Underground shutting down around 1am?

Our subways, on the other hand, run 24-7. Granted, that early in the morning, you gotta wait for a while, but at least you know there will eventually be one to stumble your drunk ass onto.

Seriously, though, goddamn it, we are "The city that never <b>sleeps</b>"... so why the fucking early curfew? Or even the <i>threat</i> of early curfew for large establishments? The very idea of creating yet another license that places have to keep track of for constant renewal reeks of the city attempting to make such businesses feel inconvenienced enough to shut down of their own accord.

Either that, or screw up on one of the licenses, and give the city free rein to shut them down.

[IrishAlkey]

It's a residential thing.

[The Brain]

That's understandable, but what exactly do they expect to happen when the residents are left with absolutely nothing worthwhile to do?

Damn it, we can't keep trying to achieve some puritanical utopia; such a place will never exist. We need some form of vice every now and again to maintain our sanity.

You know what occurs when all measures of decadence are eliminated? Look at what the Taliban was running in Afghanistan; it became under their rule a country where even singing was forbidden. They were a joyless people, which made them easy fodder for any fanatic with a death wish or two to come in and manipulate them.

Is that what they want to duplicate in <i>this</i> country?

[IrishAlkey]

I'd say that's a tad extreme.

[Silera]

Bars and clubs already need a liquor and cabaret license.

Under this proposal, most bars would only need a liquor license and the big places would have to get the night license.

The requirements for it aren't draconian or utopian. Provide soundproofing/resistance, security, and avoid being a nuisance to your neighbors.

Instead of reading people's "outraged" opinions, read the proposal.

[Silera]

...page six of the New
York Post:...

That paper isn't worthy of wiping a monkey's ass.

[Black Lazerus]

Originally posted by diceisgod
People that drastically edit their posts are cowards.

it was edited for me