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Ha HA! Jokes on you Metal! I do it at home, with a mirror & the rusty Garden tools!

Quote:I still fail to see how this is so bad?

If you get a "Terminal Case of Blue Worm" as we used to call it, you go into shock and pass out pretty quick. Loss of blood will kill you within a few minutes without immediate medical help.

With vivisection, the anasthetis prevents physical shock. Smelling salts can keep you awake from psychological shock. The process can take hours or even days. And the amount of anasthetic could be lowered so you could feel the pressure like a dull throb instead of blinding pain. Being fully aware, knowing what's happening, watching yourself being slowly and deliberately sliced up...It's the whole SLOW and knowing your dieing thing.

I say Drowning. Because as it's happening, there comes a point right before the end where you know you're about to die, and I cant imagine anything scarier than that.

So then how is vivisection more gruesome than my idea of being eaten by something while still alive? With that, you are losing portions of yourself, are aware of it, and granted, you're in shock, but still....something is consuming you. Something that, for your last moments on earth, makes you realize that you are not at the top of the food chain any longer and are nothing more than another animal, placed here for the consumption of another creature.

Yeah, being staked out naked on top of a fire ant hill and covered in sugar water is a pretty gruesome death. Slow and painful.

Being impaled my GS's dipstick. After all the places that thing has been you know there is a definate chance of a bacterial build up in your system. Slowly deteriorating your body into a lump of mush.

Details of Vivisection by Japanese
Read the bold text. Looks like they DIDN'T use anaesthetic.

Looks like vivisection is just the tip of the iceburg. The Japanese INVENTED the most gruesome methods of death!!!!

Medical researchers also locked up diseased prisoners with healthy ones, to see how readily various ailments would spread. The doctors put others inside a pressure chamber to see how much the body can withstand before the eyes pop from their sockets.

To determine the treatment of frostbite, prisoners were taken outside in freezing weather and left with exposed arms, periodically drenched with water until frozen solid. The arm was later amputated, the doctors would repeat the process on the victim's upper arm to the shoulder. After both arms were gone, the doctors moved on to the legs until only a head and torso remained. The victim was then used for plague and pathogens experiments.

Victims were burned with flamethrowers, blown up with shrapnel, bombarded with lethal doses of X-ray, spun to death in centriguges, injected with animal blood, air bubbles, exposure to syphilis, surgical removal of stomachs with the esophagus then attached to the intestines, amputation of arms and reattachment on the opposite side, gassed to death in chambers .......

The doctors experimented on children and babies, even three-day-old baby measuring the temperature with a needle stuck inside the infant's middle finger to keep it straight to prevent the baby's hand clenching into a fist.

Victims were often taken to a proving ground called Anda, where they were tied to stakes and bombarded with test weapons to see how effective the new technologies were. Planes sprayed the zone with a plague culture or dropped bombs with plague-infected fleas to see how many people would die.

White-coated Japanese medics claiming to be from a government epidemic-prevention unit would arrive at villages unannounced, saying that they were there to implement hygiene measures or to administer vaccinations. After they left, the village would become sick.

The Japanese army regularly conducted "Field Tests". Planes dropped plague-infected fleas over Ningbo in eastern China and over Changde in north-central China. Japanese troops also dropped cholera and typhoid cultures in wells and ponds.

Cottony material and feathers coated with anthrax bacteria were used to spread the disease in an airborne manner, as such fibers had been found to be effective in keeping the bacteria alive long enough to reach the intended human victims.

Witnesses recall watching Japanese airplanes release small birds on flyovers around their village. These birds had been coated with the anthrax organism, and as they flew their feathers brought the germs to people.

Japanese distributed infected food, drink, clothes and even children's candies to locals.

The same mass infections was being repeated all over China.

"Glanders was a disease first found in horses, and it could attack human beings," said Furmanski. Human beings' legs are most affected by the disease. "Only one out of 20 people with the disease could survive.

Vlad The Impaler is the coolest guy ever. Way cooler than Hitler or Stalin.

He used to impale mother and child on the same stake. He used to impale thousands of people at once and put them in the path of journeying enemy armies to scare them.

Totally sweet!!!

Ivan the Terrible used to have people tied up and thrown on giant frying pans to die.

The Mad Monk - Ivan the Terrible

Quote:Ivan the Terrible used to carry a metal-pointed staff with him, which he used to lash out at people who offended him. Once, he had peasant women stripped naked and used as target practice by his Oprichniki. Another time, he had several hundred beggars drowned in a lake. A boyar was set on a barrel of gunpowder and blown to bits. Jerome Horsey wrote how Prince Boris Telupa "was drawn upon a long sharp-made stake, which entered the lower part of his body and came out of his neck; upon which he languished a horrible pain for 15 hours alive, and spoke to his mother, brought to behold that woeful sight. And she was given to 100 gunners, who defiled her to death, and the Emperor's hungry hounds devoured her flesh and bones". His treasurer, Nikita Funikov, was boiled to death in a cauldron. His councillor, Ivan Viskovaty, was hung, while Ivan's entourage took turns hacking off pieces of his body.

In 1570, on the basis of unproved accusations of treason, Ivan sacked and burned the city of Novgorod and tortured, mutilated, impaled, roasted, and otherwise massacred its citizens. A German mercenary wrote: "Mounting a horse and brandishing a spear, he charged in and ran people through while his son watched the entertainment...". Novgorod's archbishop was first sewn up in a bearskin and then hunted to death by a pack of hounds. Men, women and children were tied to sleighs, which were then run into the freezing waters of the Volkhov River. The mass of corpses made it flood its banks. Novgorod never recovered. Later the city of Pskov suffered a similar fate.

Edited By Arthur Dent on June 11 2002 at 3:59

With the right medications and anathesia the human body can take a lot of pain. If you can stop bleeding enough you can make the person last for quite awhile. Now there's a great difference between torture and killing though torture can lead up to death, it's not death itself. I'll keep that in mind as I work on my addition for this thread.



Edited By IkeaBoy on June 11 2002 at 3:56

If we didn't turn Nagasaki to ash, the Japanese were going to drop the Bubonic plague on San Francisco. They would have infected fleas and dropped them from clay bombs. That is why they tested so many infectious warfare experiments in China. They would spike the land and then appear to retreat. When the Chinese would reclaim their land, the Japanese would giggle over how half the population would die in the first week.

Ebola..... slowly watching as your insides turn to jelly. You bleed first from every orafice, then eventually your pores actually begin to weep your innards. But the process is nice and slow.

Hey..this isn't Maynard's lunch thread, slackjaw.....let's try to stay focussed. :thumbs-up: