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That's actually a really good question and as much as I love history it's something I would really like to research. In all honesty I know the basics about Bin Laden and have read up on him here and there but really haven't looked into him to be able to fully answer that. I don't think many people honestly have, with people like napoleon, hitler, stalin, mussolini, mao, etc etc. They've long been dead and there's an abundance of literature and people have studied them and their psyche's over and over again.

Mao for example I think we completely insane, he was intelligent but a complete psychotic. Stalin it's plain to see from his life that he didn't care for his country men at all, he cared about the country which is a huge difference because the power of his country directly mirrored the power of stalin, he was an egotist to the extreme.

Bin Ladens story on the other hand hasn't even come close to completion, that is a scary thought to ponder as well.

I don't know if Bin Laden has an affinity towards afghanistan or any other country, he's not a rebel in the sense of a che gueverra or fidel or lenin who proudly waved their flags and wanted to change their country and free their fellow man (wether it was good or bad, is debatable). Bin Laden waves a flag of his own vision, that vision encompases not just a country but an entire religion, he's more of a crusader, he's not looking to lead a country like other dictators, he is looking to lead an entire religion.

If he's looking to lead them cause he cares for them and doesn't like seeing outsiders try to hurt them. Or if he is looking out for the muslim countries as a whole, or if he's simply an narcisit who thinks he is the second coming of allah I am not sure.

bin Laden does make some interesting points. Especially how if they hate freedom why don't they attack other "free" societies besides the US and its closest allies?

If they really hated freedom, sweeden would be a memory.

there was an article in the ny post today about how a new translation of this tape shows that Osama will only wage war against states that voted for Bush. That seems totally ridiculous, what are they gonna terrorize, a farm in Idaho?

I saw that article and it was a complete fucking disgrace that it was ever published. It either showed gross negligence in not understanding how everyone outside of the US uses "states" and "countries" interchangably or someone who was just trying to create a bullshit story to push their agenda to get Kerry elected.

I don't know which one it was, but it was a disgrace. By "state", he meant countries that don't mess with us, won't get messed with.

well the NY Post is a conservative paper so who knows what the agenda was, but unless bin laden likes fucking with people, he has no compelling reason to care which president is in office. I mean he attacked the WTC and started planning 9/11 while Clinton was in office. And our alliances with Israel won't change either way.

IT WAS ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!! IT WAS ON HIS WATCH!!!!!!

bin laden specifically stated that our security is not in the hands of bush or kerry, it is in our own.

Lock 'n load. See a rag head and kill him dead!

i instantly thought of Mad when I read that portion of bin laden's statement.

So how are you going to protect you and yours or are you going to dial 911 and die?

i would join your militia but i think my friends and family would think im nuts.

Cowards need not apply.

You might want to try out for the cheerleaders, I think they have an opening.

do i have to move around a lot?

Mad Wrote:Cowards need not apply.

thats the motto isnt it? "cowards need not apply but we will take all of the wackos we can get!"

Bin laden and his followers are gonna start roaming the streets, they've always been known for their openess and hand to hand combat.

The NY Post has an article implying that States that Vote for Bush will be terrorized. Take it for what it's worth.

Living in NY, not much of a chance of Bush taking this State. We do have one of the largest populations as far as potential terrorist goes. However, most of them work in Gas Stations, Seven/Eleven and what not. I haven't met any of them puts any fear in me. Unless they stop pumping that gas.

Osama is more hosest than any politician I'll give him that.

Mad Wrote:The NY Post has an article implying that States that Vote for Bush will be terrorized. Take it for what it's worth.

Living in NY, not much of a chance of Bush taking this State. We do have one of the largest populations as far as potential terrorist goes. However, most of them work in Gas Stations, Seven/Eleven and what not. I haven't met any of them puts any fear in me. Unless they stop pumping that gas.

I'd love to see you outside shooting at a plane with your pistol.

Why would anyone do that? Complete and utter waste of ammo.

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