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- Danked - 10-09-2003
This is a weird contest.
- Lord Slug - 10-09-2003
I'm okay with it as long it's not me looking for jobs through the members of this place!
- Galt - 10-09-2003
are you even remotely qualified to anything whatsoever?
That may help narrow down the field.
- The Sleeper - 10-09-2003
not really. I am gonna have a B.S. in Marketing in january and its from a prestigious school, but my grades aren't very good and i just realized I don't have too many marketable skills. I think I'm fucked
- LyricalGomez - 10-10-2003
My old job was Estate Sales but if you want a job at Lids I can do that, if you don't want to move just list me as a reference, managers love references from other people who work at Lids/Hatworld/Hatzone
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
how much does lids pay?
- LyricalGomez - 10-10-2003
Depends on if it's a Lids or a Hatworld, then it depends if it's a Fashion store, Outlet or just a Regular one, on average you can expect probablly like 8-10 bucks an hour as a third key, 7-8 if you are a Sales Associate, more if you are asst. Manager, and Managers get salary.
- Galt - 10-10-2003
The Sleeper Wrote:not really. I am gonna have a B.S. in Marketing in january and its from a prestigious schoolbut I thought you went to NYU?
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- HollywoodJewMoses - 10-10-2003
oh no he diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidnt!!!!
- Galt - 10-10-2003
And guess who has a BA in Marketing???
Hint:
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Marketing has no skills. It's all bullshit.
Two things that are cool in the marketin field.
1. Safe route: Advertising
Especially with your zany sense of humor going into advertising could be fun. You could get an entry level job working in either creative, copy, or account management. Get paid shit (less than $30k) for a few years, but if you do well, and take to it, you can make some real good money in creative. And that has to be one of the most fun jobs in the history of the world.
2. risky route: Sales
Depending on what your selling it could be fun (if it's a quality industry and a differentiated product), or it could be a major bear (insurance, copiers, most any commodity really).
The upside:
A. Complete freedom of your schedule, you don't have managers breathing down your neck as long as you are peforming.
B. You will make good money. Even if you are only mediocre in sales, you'll still make pretty good money comparatively to what else you would make.
C. Challenge. It's one of those things. You see people running companies, making a ton of money. Are they any smarter than you, or more driven than you, or whatever? Is there really any difference other than they took the risk of sales?
The downside:
A. The hours are long. If you actually want to try and succeed, you're normally looking at 10 hour days. And there is never shortage of things to do. Since you control your own success, you could make it a 24-hour a day job. It can get very intense and dominate your life
B. You could fail. If you are horrible at your marketing position, there really isn't any tangible way to measure it. If you suck at sales, you won't sell anything, your entire company will hate you, and you will feel like a miserable failure. It can get very depressing if you're not doing as well as you want to and don't really know what you're doing. Some people find a way to make it work, some people either give up early or just aren't really cut out for sales.
To paraphrase a line from Braveheart:
Sure, go into sales and you might fail miserably If you go into marketing or some other safe white-collar job, you'll be happy and get predictable mediocre money...for a least a while. But dying in your bed many years from now...would you be willing to trade every day from this day to that for one chance. Just one chance, to come back here and something something something see just how you would step up to the challenge of something really risky that only few people attempt and even fewer really master?
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
Quote:Marketing has no skills. It's all bullshit.agreed 100%
Quote:1. Safe route: Advertisingthis is what i have been planning on doing for a while now. I would really like a job creating ads. I just fear that I'll start at the entry level for some shitty company and end up hating it and losing my motivation and such. I saw a presentation freshman year at SAatchi & Saatchi and some dude who made the Tide commercials said he worked odd jobs for a while and created a portfolio. That could be an option as well.
Especially with your zany sense of humor going into advertising could be fun. You could get an entry level job working in either creative, copy, or account management. Get paid shit (less than $30k) for a few years, but if you do well, and take to it, you can make some real good money in creative. And that has to be one of the most fun jobs in the history of the world.
As far as sales, I hate talking on the phone and I hate selling people stuff, so it's not for me.
- Galt - 10-10-2003
You are in the center of the advertising world. It's all about Madison Avenue.
Take a look at Advertising Age and see if people at your school can hook you up with contacts at some good agencies. I'm sure your alumni database has a bunch of top level people from undergrad and/or MBA.
Or you could pick out ads that you like on TV [like whoever comes up with the ESPN ads, Aflac, or some other obscure ad (the more obscure, the less likely it'll be some huge firm that will be difficult to get into)]. You call them, tell them that you just love their ads and you want to get into advertising, and would want to work on a campaign like that, or at a minimum, work for a company that can put out such a great ad.
It's different, and aggressive, and I bet it would get you an interview. Just don't let yourself get directed to the HR people. Try and talk to someone directly from creative. Don't think you're intruding if you call them. They'd love to hear someone call and fawn over them about their work.
- Danked - 10-10-2003
Or you could just get a job at a record store. That'd be sweet.
- Galt - 10-10-2003
and take an advertising class or two next semester.
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
Galt Wrote:You are in the center of the advertising world. It's all about Madison Avenue.that is a good idea, i will look into it. thanks.
Take a look at Advertising Age and see if people at your school can hook you up with contacts at some good agencies. I'm sure your alumni database has a bunch of top level people from undergrad and/or MBA.
Or you could pick out ads that you like on TV [like whoever comes up with the ESPN ads, Aflac, or some other obscure ad (the more obscure, the less likely it'll be some huge firm that will be difficult to get into)]. You call them, tell them that you just love their ads and you want to get into advertising, and would want to work on a campaign like that, or at a minimum, work for a company that can put out such a great ad.
It's different, and aggressive, and I bet it would get you an interview. Just don't let yourself get directed to the HR people. Try and talk to someone directly from creative. Don't think you're intruding if you call them. They'd love to hear someone call and fawn over them about their work.
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
Danked Wrote:Or you could just get a job at a record store. That'd be sweet.that is Plan D
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
Galt Wrote:and take an advertising class or two next semester.I've taken several already, and I graduate this semester
- diceisgod - 10-10-2003
Change your major to Latin.
- The Sleeper - 10-10-2003
a little too late for that or i sure would
- LyricalGomez - 10-10-2003
Liar