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- HedCold - 11-10-2004 think Bush finds someone worse to replace him? - Sir O - 11-10-2004 “The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved.” Yeah, okay... - The Sleeper - 11-10-2004 whackbagkid knew about this a few days ago - GonzoStyle - 11-10-2004 I think the majority of people knew ashcroft was gone and powell is probably next. - HedCold - 11-10-2004 rumors came out last week, but it wasn't officially announced until today - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Powell's been saying he's gone for months if Monkeyboy gets reelected. I just wonder if Ashcroft is going for the next available SC slot. His age and health have me doubting it, but I can't imagine he's through forcing his morals on the rest of us. Let the eagle soar... - GonzoStyle - 11-10-2004 as long as his opponent isn't dead he may have a shot, dead opponent he has no shot. - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Except to get to the Supreme Court you don't run against anyone...you're appointed by the president and just have to pass the Legislature. A filibuster is possible, and likely if Dubya were to appoint him, but then will the filibuster rule be overturned? It's likely. Edited By Sir O on 1100056058 - Galt - 11-10-2004 Ashcroft won't get nominated. He's too hated, the democrats would filibuster and the public would probably be behind them. I bet there wouldn't be 5 democrats that would vote to stop the fillibuster. Clarence Thomas is going to be the Chief Justice, Condi will possibly be Sec of State, and some other negro will be the AG. Aside from the president, possibly the three most powerful people in the country will all be black. Rick James' birthday will be a national holiday. - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Condi as Secretary of State? What makes you think that? - GonzoStyle - 11-10-2004 The big buzz before was that condi was front runner for powells job once he resigns. - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Seriously, no. Even Dubya wouldn't be that stupid. - Galt - 11-10-2004 Why not? She's well respected within the administration, she speaks like 4 languages, she's got a brilliant pedigree, and a guy I know who works on her security detail thinks the world of her (not that he has any power...but still) If this is regarding "OMG!!! 9/11 happened on her watch and she let Al Queda run rampant and unchecked in the less than 9 months she was in office"...come on, seriously? - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Brilliant pedigree? Know what her area of expertise is? Soviet studies! The Soviet Union is dead! And being well-respected within the administration--well, so was Ahmed Chalabi. But above all, Sec. of State needs to be a Diplomat, that's what the State Dept. is. The diplomatic arm of a pretty damn undiplomatic government. Powell is a diplomat, and he did his best, I'll say above and beyond the call of duty. Condi Rice isn't a diplomat. If she heads the State Dept....seriously, do you think anyone will see her as a Diplomat? - Galt - 11-10-2004 well, broadly Eastern European, but yes, she isn't a Mideast expert. But who is? Unless he goes and nominates Richard Clarke I don't think there are many people (on either side) who have a lot of diplomatic experience in that region, which is much of the reason why we are where we are. I'm just thinking she's likely to be named because she has at least some experience whereas I don't think that there are many others that do in the area. - Galt - 11-10-2004 and Powell was a diplomat? is there anything LESS diplomatic than the army? It's his job to kill people and break things. - Sir O - 11-10-2004 That's what I don't understand...she has experience with other countries, but not with other countries who are our focus...but she's our pick because at least she has experience with other countries? In the international relations department, that's like appointing Johnny Damon as head quarterback, because he has experience with sports, and even though he plays baseball, it's at least a sport and so is football. And I don't really know who a good Sec. of State would be...probably Anthony Zinni, but that's not happening. But Rice WOULD BE DISASTER...holy fuck would it. - Galt - 11-10-2004 and being a diplomat in one region is wildly differnet than being a diplomat in another? I don't think so. I don't know why you think she'd be such a disaster. So what if she has eastern eurpean experience. Powell had no diplomatic experience. Zero. His expertise was in killing people and blowing shit up. most recently in the middle east, so I think the people there would be a little more cautious about him than they would about her. She'd obviously be better suited for Rumsfeld's job if he leaves, though I doubt he will. - Arpikarhu - 11-10-2004 lets hope rumsfeld is next - Sir O - 11-10-2004 Powell had an understanding of the Middle East....god this is where I would need to go through multiple sources to prove my point...Powell went to war against an opponent under a president that at least made sure his generals UNDERSTOOD THE OPPONENT (under Dubya's Daddy, Gens. Powell and Schwarzkopf knew who they were facing). Dubya's daddy knew why we shouldn't take Baghdad, why fucking taking over Iraq would be stupid: Quote:The end of effective Iraqi resistance came with a rapidity which surprised us all, and we were perhaps psychologically unprepared for the sudden transition from fighting to peacemaking. True to the guidelines we had established, when we had achieved our strategic objectives (ejecting Iraqi forces from Kuwait and eroding Saddam's threat to the region) we stopped the fighting. But the necessary limitations placed on our objectives, the fog of war, and the lack of "battleship Missouri" surrender unfortunately left unresolved problems, and new ones arose. Google that: I don't think I need to cite my source there. |