06-27-2002, 01:39 AM
the pledge is a crock of shit anyway. someone does not need to recite nationalistic values to be a patriot or for that matter, be a child. And don't give me that "didn't you learn from 9/11" mantra...no state should be putting nationalistic goals upon a child...this is supposed to be a democracy where children are supposed to receive an unfettered education free of corporate whoring, nationalistic dogma or religious values. None of which are supplied, mind you. However, I always found the pledge to be a borish waste. You can't slap patriotism on a child..you can only teach them values. Should they also repeat the ten commandments each day?? Do you think it somehow would be useful...or would they drown it out and ignore it, much like the pledge of allegiance. Patriotism, love for country...is personal...not supplied by the fuckin state.
As for the "God"-word being in it...this country has the stipulation of seperation of church and state. It's the law. The text "In God we trust" and the Pledge of Allegiance both go against that. Either change the law, or have stuff like this come up when it's testing in the federal courts.
But don't give me the "pedge is necessary" line. It's not. Anything forced on you soon loses it's meaning and just becomes empty words. And, look in a classroom one day...look into their eyes as they say it, and you tell me if they are even paying attention. And, yes, even after 9/11.
Edited By Gooch on June 26 2002 at 9:41
As for the "God"-word being in it...this country has the stipulation of seperation of church and state. It's the law. The text "In God we trust" and the Pledge of Allegiance both go against that. Either change the law, or have stuff like this come up when it's testing in the federal courts.
But don't give me the "pedge is necessary" line. It's not. Anything forced on you soon loses it's meaning and just becomes empty words. And, look in a classroom one day...look into their eyes as they say it, and you tell me if they are even paying attention. And, yes, even after 9/11.
Edited By Gooch on June 26 2002 at 9:41
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