interesting stuff on airplanes and arabs

[Bland]

airplanes and terrorsists

after a discussion of the article you may mock me for the source.

[Galt]

SOMEONE GET RID OF THAT STATUS

[Mad]

WomensWallstreet, heh.

[Goatweed]

I have been reading this today, there's a follow-up to the WWS article here :

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the thing I don't understand is...there was all this talk, even before 9/11, about putting more Air Marshalls on planes to prevent incidents from happening - but it seems, as quoted in the first article, that they CAN'T do anything until an incident takes place? If the Air Marshalls are Fed workers (they are, aren't they?) and out gov't has a shoot-first-to-prevent-9/11-from-happening-again-ask-questions-later attitude, why hasn't it trickled down to the Marshalls yet? It makes more sense to me to have them take people down on the plane when they suspect they might be causing trouble, or "testing" security's response.

Also, I think the threat of a spontaneous response by a Marshall is much more of a deterrent than knowing theyre there but they cant do anything until a terrorist makes a move - to me, that gives the terrorist a HUGE advantage, and complete control of the situation.

[Keyser Soze]

i said this a long long time ago.

[Galt]

I am so deathly afraid of everything.

[Keyser Soze]

im more afraid of car accidents than terrorists.

[Black Lazerus]

well the racist actions that this country made early in it's history have now made it hard to bind anyone based on race no matter how justified they may be. I say you crackers brought on yourselves so deal with it. But I do think it's stupid that the air Marshal's must wait I think that they should have been able to detain those people on the plane. A police officer has more leeway than they do, if you start moving funny in your car they have the right to detain you and search what you were doing. and they are only dealing with there own lives not the lives of 100-200 people.

[Galt]

but racism exists because it's true!

[Goatweed]

imagine what would've happened if Wesley Snipes had waited to act !!!

[Black Lazerus]

Say mostly true and I will support that statement 100%.
If our security was so great at the boarders and on planes then the illegal drug industry in this country would have come to a grinding halt.

[Mad]

Say mostly true and I will support that statement 100%.
If our security was so great at the boarders and on planes then the illegal drug industry in this country would have come to a grinding halt.

You mean the CIA would have to find a legal way to fund itself?

[Sir O]

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The Syrian Wayne Newton
The man inadvertently behind a scare in the skies.

By Clinton W. Taylor

Annie Jacobsen's recent piece for WomensWallStreet.Com made waves. Her account of flying with her family while 14 Middle Eastern passengers acted in a threatening and apparently coordinated manner makes for a terrifying read. Her article captures her sickening sense of both uncertainty and inevitability as what might possibly have been the next 9/11 unfolded around her.

Fortunately, nothing of the sort happened. On June 29, Northwest Airlines Flight 327 landed safely in Los Angeles and a phalanx of law enforcement greeted the suspicious passengers, whisking them away for some intense interviews. Jacobsen noted a pile of Syrian passports in the hand of a law-enforcement official.

But the men checked out, and Jacobsen was told that they were "hired as musicians to play at a casino in the desert." She was not told the name of the band, nor the name of the casino. And as her story made the rounds through the Internet and beyond (the Dallas Morning News printed a condensed version earlier this week), a note of skepticism about her story crept in. Had she imagined the whole thing? Or was the government covering up a "dry run" for another terrorist attack?

Columnist and blogger Michelle Malkin confirmed some of the details of Jacobsen's story with the Federal Air Marshal's service, but the identity of the band remained the subject of much speculation. For a while the blogosphere settled on a Syrian band called Kulna Sawa as a likely candidate, but the gents at Powerline received a note from that group's tour manager explaining the band was still in Syria when all this happened. Even the mainstream media began to notice the story: New York Times reporter Joe Sharkey confirmed some of the details of the story today but admitted he, too, was unable to identify the band.

Well, I am nominally the "news director" for Stanford University's student radio station, KZSU, and I figured I'd help the Times out. There aren't that many casinos in southern California, so I had my research assistant, Mr. Google, take a look at some. An hour later I was talking to the nice folks at Sycuan Casino & Resort, near San Diego. Unlike most casinos where it's all Elvis impersonators, Paul Anka, and Linda Ronstadt — oh, wait, scratch that last one — Sycuan books the occasional "ethnic music" show, too. In August, for example, they'll have a Vietnamese night.

"Oh, do you mean Arab music?" inquired Angie, who answered Sycuan's phone. Yes, they had had an Arab act perform on July 1, an artist named Nour Mehana. Terry, Angie's supervisor at Sycuan, confirmed that he was there and that there was probably a backup band brought in, since there's no house band at Sycuan. In fractions of a second, Mr. Google found a website for Sycuan's event promoters, Anthem Artists, whose archive confirms Nour Mehana performed at Sycuan on 7/01/04.

And then I noticed something that was truly terrifying, something linking Nour Mehana to a figure of such repulsive evil that I felt a rush of prickly fear not unlike Jacobsen's: Just one week later, the same company that arranged Mehana's performance, also booked Carrot Top!

I talked to James Cullen of Anthem Artists who confirms that Nour Mehana's large band did arrive on Northwest Flight 327. Some of them came in from Detroit, and some from Lebanon. Cullen says they never said anything about a disturbance on the flight to him, even though "I stayed in the same hotel, they were nice, they stayed right above me." He said that they were fine musicians, put on a great show, and he would work with them again in the future.

Cullen did receive a follow-up e-mail from the Department of Homeland Security, asking him to confirm that the band had played their gig at Sycuan. He had read Jacobsen's article and concluded that some "people are just paranoid." A pilot himself, Cullen insisted that the patterns Jacobsen perceived wouldn't occur to him. "We should take pride in our system. We've got to trust our system." (Cullen made it clear that he opposes "this crazy Bush Iraq war sh*t," but it is important to bear in mind that Cullen also admitted to booking Carrot Top.)

Nour Mehana (a.k.a. Noor Mehanna, or Nour Mhanna, plus various permutations of those spellings) is, in fact, Syrian. He performs both "new-agey" hits and old sentimental Middle Eastern classics in a style called Tarab. In this catchy ten-minute video of Mehana on stage, (scroll down; the name is rendered Noor Mhanan this time ) you can see he has a rather large backup band helping him out. (The resolution is low, but Jacobsen might recognize some of the band members Mehanna is interacting with.) Followers of news from Iraq may have heard about the U.S. tour of the "Iraqi Elvis." Well, Mehana comes across not as an angry jihadi, but rather more like the Syrian Wayne Newton.

[Mad]

Carrot Top is the worlds leading terrorist, who would have ever thought that?

[Goatweed]

I've been saying that for years, people are finally starting to see the light!!

[Galt]

Are those Syrians so poor that they have to share McDonald's?

[Keyser Soze]

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[Goatweed]

TeenWeek quoted the first few lines of the links he posted...

[Mad]

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Where are your papers?

Sieg Heil!!!