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President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
+1 back atcha.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-20-2009
I heard that the mistake was made by Roberts, apparently they rehearse that stuff and Roberts didn't say the Oath right which screwed up Obama. However, Obama could have simply just repeated him and no one would have been the wiser.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
This just in, Senator Ted Kennedy (D-WI) and Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) have just been taken from the Congressional Luncheon by medical officials. Early reports indicate that Senator Kennedy had a seizure.
I guess that makes it official, Democrats are falling all over themselves at the thought of an Obama presidency.
President Obama - mutts202 - 01-20-2009
Allyson Wrote:I heard that the mistake was made by Roberts, apparently they rehearse that stuff and Roberts didn't say the Oath right which screwed up Obama. However, Obama could have simply just repeated him and no one would have been the wiser.
What's the point in rehearsing if the guy prompting the oath is just going to wing it? Imaging standing there in front of all those people at the biggest moment of your life, and someone throws a curveball like that. I think it fried his brain for a second. I hate messing up in front of just a room of people. :'(
President Obama - dino - 01-20-2009
Allyson Wrote:I heard that the mistake was made by Roberts, apparently they rehearse that stuff and Roberts didn't say the Oath right which screwed up Obama. However, Obama could have simply just repeated him and no one would have been the wiser.
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They both did.
Obama was a bit quick to state his name before Roberts was able to complete his portion of it which apparently threw off Roberts on the next section and Obama tried to repeat it but stopped short requiring Roberts to correct himself in what he said.
Made me cringe when listening to it.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-20-2009
dino Wrote:Made me cringe when listening to it.
You're not kidding, what an embarassment.
President Obama - Queenie - 01-20-2009
Allyson Wrote:dino Wrote:Made me cringe when listening to it.
You're not kidding, what an embarassment.
Could this be a sign of times to come?
President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
But the fact still remains...Justice Roberts told President Obama what to say. President Obama couldn't do that. Let's just go with the "they rehearsed it" bit. If that's the case, say it the way you rehearsed it. Say it the way the man in front of you says it. No one is going to care. The fact remains that President Obama couldn't A) repeat what he was told to say or B) say what he'd rehearsed.
He was thrown the slightest little curve ball, and he completely froze. Yes, I understand he was nervous. Who wouldn't be? But it's not like he had to decide a life or death issue at that point. He needed to choose a WORD.
President Obama - dino - 01-20-2009
Queenie Wrote:Allyson Wrote:You're not kidding, what an embarassment.
Could this be a sign of times to come?
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Not a good way to start out.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
HAHA follow the money, Dino!
I've made a deal with a friend of mine, so I'll repeat it here, because I know President Obama is so very badly wanting my approval.
If he can handle the Gaza situation appropriately, I'll forget the goof during the opening scene.
President Obama - dino - 01-20-2009
hotzester Wrote:HAHA follow the money, Dino!
I've made a deal with a friend of mine, so I'll repeat it here, because I know President Obama is so very badly wanting my approval.
If he can handle the Gaza situation appropriately, I'll forget the goof during the opening scene.
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President Obama - cuppie - 01-20-2009
mutts202 Wrote:Allyson Wrote:I heard that the mistake was made by Roberts, apparently they rehearse that stuff and Roberts didn't say the Oath right which screwed up Obama. However, Obama could have simply just repeated him and no one would have been the wiser.
What's the point in rehearsing if the guy prompting the oath is just going to wing it? Imaging standing there in front of all those people at the biggest moment of your life, and someone throws a curveball like that. I think it fried his brain for a second. I hate messing up in front of just a room of people. :'(
Yes but you also don't pride yourself as being an eloquent speaker like he does. If you are as good as you say you are at public speaking, it shouldn't matter if you're speaking to 2 or 2 million people, you should be able to handle the pressure.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
Ha....Halfrican American. I kill me.
Back to the story at hand. I just heard Charlie Gibson mention that there hasn't been a single arrest during the inaugural festivities.
The President is so good that the man actually cured CRIME in just one day!!!
He really is the Alpha and the Obama.
President Obama - whatwouldzappasay - 01-20-2009
I like the cut of your jib
I like that you know what 'cut of your jib' actually means. Thanks for using it.
IMHO, nothing much ever changes no matter who is in office. The last time there was any hope for my (very young at the time) generation was Kennedy.
As someone I know on another forum is fond of saying regarding the right vs the left "they are simply wings on the same bird." And I tend to agree with that. They're all dictated to by big business/big money families.
I don't have the link handy but can find it (I hope) where it shows the progression of the US presidents and their policies and concerns and how many/who was assissinated because they wanted to do away with the federal reserve. Kennedy, was among those.
Yup, I like me some conspiracy theories. *nods*
President Obama - Allyson - 01-20-2009
Ok so I thought maybe I was making stuff up earlier today when Rev Joseph Lowery was speaking, but after listening to it again I think he was making a blatant jab at whites.
A direct quote: "We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."
I know I'm not the only one who raised an eyebrow at this.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-20-2009
I didn't catch it, but it's definitely interesting.
President Obama - Queenie - 01-20-2009
Allyson Wrote:Ok so I thought maybe I was making stuff up earlier today when Rev Joseph Lowery was speaking, but after listening to it again I think he was making a blatant jab at whites.
A direct quote: "We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."
I know I'm not the only one who raised an eyebrow at this.
I heard it and I didn't think it was funny either.
President Obama - Biff - 01-20-2009
It's from an old speech.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-21-2009
Soooo if Rick Warren said something negative about another race, it would be okay as long as it was a quote from an old speech?
Doubtful.
President Obama - Biff - 01-21-2009
For the record I'm not excusing it because I hate the "blame whitey" bullshit as much as the next person. I'm just letting you guys know that he was quoting an old speech; albeit horribly.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-21-2009
I almost want to give him a pass because he's so old and lived through the torture of being black back when he was beaten for his color, but I can't. I just can't believe that he would throw something in his speech that was so flagrantly inappropriate, even if he was alluding to an old speech. The one day that the race card should have been left alone, and he pulls it out. Not a fan.
President Obama - Rock Monster - 01-21-2009
Don't you guys know that it isn't racist if a black guy says it? There's no such thing as racism towards whitey!
President Obama - -Jiggy- - 01-21-2009
Allyson Wrote:I almost want to give him a pass because he's so old and lived through the torture of being black back when he was beaten for his color, but I can't. I just can't believe that he would throw something in his speech that was so flagrantly inappropriate, even if he was alluding to an old speech. The one day that the race card should have been left alone, and he pulls it out. Not a fan.I can't excuse the fact that other than this message board, I really haven't heard anyone else talk about this.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-21-2009
Jiggy Wrote:Allyson Wrote:I almost want to give him a pass because he's so old and lived through the torture of being black back when he was beaten for his color, but I can't. I just can't believe that he would throw something in his speech that was so flagrantly inappropriate, even if he was alluding to an old speech. The one day that the race card should have been left alone, and he pulls it out. Not a fan.I can't excuse the fact that other than this message board, I really haven't heard anyone else talk about this.
Which is why I thought I was crazy at first, but now I believe that I'm right and everyone else just missed it or afraid to say anything.
President Obama - beckyp - 01-21-2009
Jiggy Wrote:Allyson Wrote:I almost want to give him a pass because he's so old and lived through the torture of being black back when he was beaten for his color, but I can't. I just can't believe that he would throw something in his speech that was so flagrantly inappropriate, even if he was alluding to an old speech. The one day that the race card should have been left alone, and he pulls it out. Not a fan.I can't excuse the fact that other than this message board, I really haven't heard anyone else talk about this.
maybe, just maybe, we're learning to be above this shit and focus on what's important. i'm sure i could find a memo or something...
President Obama - -Jiggy- - 01-21-2009
Jo Wrote:Well obviously we aren't above it. There was no reason for it to have ever been said in the first place. I don't mind being the punching bag for someone like Chris Rock who makes a living by cracking those kinds of jokes but that was wrong place and wrong time.Jiggy Wrote:I can't excuse the fact that other than this message board, I really haven't heard anyone else talk about this.
maybe, just maybe, we're learning to be above this shit and focus on what's important. i'm sure i could find a memo or something...
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
Wait a second, so a black man says something inciting about white people, and we need to "learn to be above it", but if a white guy says something about a black person (I'm talking to you, Imus), then that's racisim and completely intolerable?
Whatever you do, don't be consistent.
President Obama - Rock Monster - 01-21-2009
hotzester Wrote:Wait a second, so a black man says something inciting about white people, and we need to "learn to be above it", but if a white guy says something about a black person (I'm talking to you, Imus), then that's racisim and completely intolerable?
Whatever you do, don't be consistent.
Like I have already said, there is no such thing as racism towards white people. :
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
lol @ Rock Monster...completely agree, dude.
What I always liked, and you don't see it much anymore, is when they tried to call it "reverse racism." No, "reverse racisim" is NO RACISM. Killed me...
That said, if that's the tone the new president wishes to set at the very onset of his administration, I think it's safe to say it's a trend which will probably continue.
Or maybe it was a scenario like Rev. Wright...maybe Obama didn't know that's the kind of view the guy would bring.
President Obama - dingdongyo - 01-21-2009
i was not offended. i thought he sounded funny, and he made me giggle.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
My approach to stuff like this is simple.
Am I offended by the statement? No. What I'm offended by is the hypocrisy. If I said something similar about a black man, I'd be labeled. If I said something about a Democrat, I'd be called out on it.
I'm not insulted by the statement, I'm insulted by the lack of any response.
President Obama - Allyson - 01-21-2009
HZ I agree with you 100%.
However I am also a bit offended. He said he prays for the day when blacks will not be asked to get in back ... um, hellooo? We just inaugurated our first Halfrican American, and you're still waiting for blacks to not be asked to get in back? And it's time for whites to start acting right? Really? How about everybody starts acting right, because in my humble opinion whites have been trying extremely hard to make up for what their ancestors may or may not have done.
/rant
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
+1 for using Halfrican American.
President Obama - Howie Feltersnatch - 01-21-2009
Allyson Wrote:HZ I agree with you 100%.
However I am also a bit offended. He said he prays for the day when blacks will not be asked to get in back ... um, hellooo? We just inaugurated our first Halfrican American, and you're still waiting for blacks to not be asked to get in back? And it's time for whites to start acting right? Really? How about everybody starts acting right, because in my humble opinion whites have been trying extremely hard to make up for what their ancestors may or may not have done.
/rant
Equality means EVERYONE is treated equally, not just the minorities being treated better.
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
a HOT ZESTER original production:
"We'll never be treated as the same until you stop pointing out how you're different."
President Obama - Queenie - 01-21-2009
Allyson Wrote:HZ I agree with you 100%.
However I am also a bit offended. He said he prays for the day when blacks will not be asked to get in back ... um, hellooo? We just inaugurated our first Halfrican American, and you're still waiting for blacks to not be asked to get in back? And it's time for whites to start acting right? Really? How about everybody starts acting right, because in my humble opinion whites have been trying extremely hard to make up for what their ancestors may or may not have done.
/rant
+1
Allyson for President in 2012!!!!
President Obama - Allyson - 01-21-2009
hotzester Wrote:+1 for using Halfrican American.
It may be my new favorite term.
President Obama - Biff - 01-21-2009
I'm going to go ahead and exalt Allyson and Hotzester for a little while. I'll be right back.
President Obama - plungerhand - 01-21-2009
hotzester Wrote:a HOT ZESTER original production:
"We'll never be treated as the same until you stop pointing out how you're different."
You are on fire dude! + 10
President Obama - hotzester - 01-21-2009
Stop drop and roll!
See? There's more to the Zester than just being a prick!