Conservatives vs. Liberals

[Mad Dog]

No, not at all, just pointing out that there are differences, and since they are in the slim minority there block voting power is vastly diminished.

While i agree there is the potential for income and spending to be quite different between gay people and straight people, the government should not be adjusting accordingly in any way. i stand by my original statement. The government should always view people as individuals, and it should make no difference if i am married, not married, have kids, do not have kids, etc... By making any distinction they are clearly setting it up for double standards, which goes back to the famous "All men are created equal" statement.

If i pay more or less taxes than you do because of my marital status, regardless of whether you are straight, gay, bisexual, half man half dog (aka Mog), etc... then it is not equal.

The tax system is inherently not equal anyway, if they are going to give us the old screw job with an income tax, it should be a flat percentage, not this income bracket BS. Just because i make more money than someone else, if the percentage is the same inherently i will be paying more, but instead i am paying more, and then more because the percentage changed because i just got a raise that equals out to 10 cents more an hour, but i got pushed into a new bracket.

/end rant

In principal, I agree with you totally Crow, its just that there are always politics involved. And the politics we're talking about here is basically "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" or conversely "If you don't support me, I won't support you" and the tax code, the way they re-write it each year is the only real way that politicians can either reward their constituency's or punish their opponents. Fair or not thats the reality.

Personally, this whole issue of Social Security is really the same type of issue only in reverse. Let me explain. Since gay marriage rights people are in such a minority, they can't get much of anything done as a group. Conversely the Social Security retirement bunch have such a large majority and have gotten there way for so many years, that its almost impossible for anybody to get up enough political balls to fix the system. i.e. too much money going out and not enough coming in.

This is also the root reason why the gay rights crowd are frustrated and feel they have to be "in your face" and why the old folks quietly go about their business.