We have all become too sensitive

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I know that, thanks.

How very dismissive of you. I'm hurt. :-[

I think I'm all typed out, until I locate more beer.

Basically, everything you said I agree with and I don't believe I said anything to the contrary. I can't stand when there is no discipline whatsoever in a child's life, or parents who only want to be buds with their kids. That's one end of the spectrum, and the other end is the iron-fist rule over kids. Neither of these "methods" work.