12-11-2008, 12:50 PM
lt Wrote:Are you blaming religion for your girlfriend felling like she can't be herself in front of her friends and family. Religion isn't the source for those feelings, that's just called human emotion. It's the same way I really liked my moms spaghetti growing up and now that I have tried my mother-in-laws spaghetti my moms isn't as good. I don't have the heart to tell her because I know it would hurt her feelings. By the way I am not trying to put religion and spaghetti in the same category, it's just the first example I could come up with.cuppie Wrote:Am I the only one that finds it ironic that in a thread about how Christians aren't persecuted, there's a ton of Christian bashing? You're disproving everything that article is about by continually bashing Christians.
I don't believe this thread contains any "christian bashing," just a discussion of observations made by others. No one has said Christianity is wrong and its follows are crazy loons, but it seems to me that Christians have been trained to feel persecuted when someone doesn't believe the same thing they do.
Just the other day my girlfriend and I were talking about how she ran into a friend who is very Christian, and how her friend tried to convince her to go to her church, but my girlfriend was too afraid to tell this person, who in her own words "accepts me for who I am", that she no longer believes in religion for fear of being alienated amongst their group of mutual friends. The same reason why she goes along with her family when invited to church for religious holidays, and gets pissed at me when I refuse to go along. BTW - out of our close group of friends, and my family, we are the only non-religious folks in the group, which is used as fodder (by even my mother) to mock us (which I give right back in spades).
Side note: agreeing with speedbump, I hate it when people refer to atheism as a religion, it is a philosophical view.
//jumps off soapbox
As far as the mocking goes I can speak from experience that that comes with the territory. I went to church alot in high school and decided after school to go to a christian college. I immediately realized it wasn't for me. Not that my faith was diminishing but there was nothing in the religious field I wanted to pursue as a career. While there, however, I met my future wife. Over the last 9-10 years since then my faith has been tested alot. I have come to the realization that church and religion doesn't make me a christian. I do feel that the church plays an important role but it will not get you to heaven. So needless to say I do not attend church as much as my wife, or her family for that matter, would like me to. One thing my wife's aunt told my wife one time was that I was probably just using the christian college and church to manipulate my wife and try to get into her pants. Through all of this though my faith is still the cornerstone of my life. I just try to have a deeper understanding of how the real world works and I don't look down on people because they choose a diiferent path than me. It's people like my wife's aunt is why I don't go to church more often. I wish people could just live their life how they want and let others live how they want.
Well, I guess that we all learned a lesson today. That it's what's inside a person that counts. And that on the inside, midgets are thieving little bastards.