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Philly Mike Wrote:The place just being there now has scarred our reputation amongst the international community, even with our allies, this is why it needs to go.

What are we, in high school? What is the obsession people have with being regarded as the most popular and most-favorably looked upon nation? It brings to mind a quote plastered all over MY high school- "What is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular."

Philly Mike Wrote:You can say what you want but he has already followed through with some of his promises...He can't just create law so yeah he can't automatically give the tax cuts or get rid of pork spending, but he is doing a hell of a lot more than just sitting there and saying stay the course.

No, he can't create law and automatically give tax cuts. I also thought the President couldn't take over a massive corporation, but he's done it not once.. but three times (Chrysler, GM and AIG)!

He's already admitted the cut he promised to 98% of Americans is not feasible. You think that platform earned him a vote or two? And now he's already gone back on it. No, he can't just say "No more pork barrel spending.. make it so!" and wave a magic wand.. but he could actually attempt to stand behind his words. His spending package (some people referred to it as a stimulus) was ridiculously full of pork and earmarks, and that was after campaigning about ending government waste and increasing government efficiency. You are aware that government employees (average salary: ~74,000/year) are getting raises this year (bringing their average salary to ~76,000/year), right? Yeah.. wait to follow through.

Also, with all the "green" legislation his party is proposing (and don't tell me he'd even consider vetoing it), a lot of people are going to be losing jobs. Hell, there's even a provision in the new climate bill that provides three years of special unemployment benefits to those whose jobs will be lost as a result of the "American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009." Do you think that'd be in there if it wasn't going to be an issue? It also does nothing to protect the poor from the rate hikes it'll bring about. I could go on and on, but this is too long already.
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Philly Mike Wrote:as much of an idiot I thought bush was he still did a lot of good too so I don't want to hear anyone saying I am left or sticking up for obama because I am "liberal" or whatever the hell anyone else has tried to call me. I have been called conservative and liberal, I can't be both.

You know why you thought Bush and his boys did a lot of good? Because they weren't even CLOSE to conservatives when it comes to most issues. They spent money like liberals, passed rather liberal legislation (aside from the GOP tenets of abortion/stem-cell issues, the "sanctity of marriage", etc) and were very short-sighted. If not for the war, I bet Bush Jr. could've been one of the most popular presidents ever.. hell, his approval ratings were still better than the Dem-controlled Congress in the last two years (which isn't saying much, because both were pathetic).

Sorry for the longevity. Call it a stress-release.
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