06-26-2009, 10:15 AM
call me pessimistic if it makes you feel better, maybe you should read the posts previous to when you posted.
There are plenty of reports stating that your so called social medicine does not work in those "wealthy" countries that have it. In England, I have a friend that had lung cancer. The government choice was to put him on the back burner because there are SO many people in line for the "free" healthcare that he would have to wait. In England they have "health Brokers", basically people that you pay to find a care giver that will see you, if you spend more $, you see someone better, and someone sooner. I'm glad to see that their health system works so well.
In Canada, there was a woman that was forced to deal with a broken wrist for two weeks before she could see a Doctor to set it and put it in a cast.
I'm not against people having healthcare, I don't think that anyone should be left to suffer or die.
However, I feel that the only people that are going to benefit from this are people that are already on government aid for healthcare. And the unintended consequences on the entire health system could be pretty bad.
I was on Cobra, after I finished college, paid a lot of money for it too, but it was good healthcare. The person I was employed by paid for my healthcare that I had. Cobra only lasts for so long, so i had to find healthcare from a different company. No one would cover me because of my preexisting conditions, which are listed under cancer.
Here in TN we have TennCare which is basically medicare. Government run. Even with the HIPPA act, and being my last and only resort, they wouldn't cover me. The TennCare system is abused by people that don't need it, use it to get prescriptions that they sell, make false claims and like welfare use it because its free and they don't have to work for it.
So instead of begging the government to take care of me and saying, "oh its okay if you don't take care of the tumor growing back inside my effing head", because that was one of the limitations that were to be placed. I moved to Nashville area, got a job with health insurance, and because of the HIPPA act, I was able to get health insurance that covers everything. I'm on medicine now that would normally cost 50.00 a PILL that I take three times a week and with my health insurance costs me $15 for 16 pills. And sometime, when I decide to have children, any problems I have getting pregnant that happen because of the tumor, will be covered.
So, excuse me for not feeling like people should depend on the government for everything.
Maybe I am pessimistic, maybe I don't think that people should be taken care of like little babies all their lives, maybe I think that people should have to work for what they earn. Maybe I haven't felt like the Government run programs that are in place now work worth a damn. The only things the government runs that work is the military and the post office. They should stick to those, and maybe fix the other programs already in place before implementing another one.
I read the plan for the healthcare, I listened to Obama on the TV. It sounds great, looks good on paper, I just have no confidence in the government controlling it well, and less confidence in the leeches in society.
PS, maybe you should learn about people before jumping to conclusions about them.
There are plenty of reports stating that your so called social medicine does not work in those "wealthy" countries that have it. In England, I have a friend that had lung cancer. The government choice was to put him on the back burner because there are SO many people in line for the "free" healthcare that he would have to wait. In England they have "health Brokers", basically people that you pay to find a care giver that will see you, if you spend more $, you see someone better, and someone sooner. I'm glad to see that their health system works so well.
In Canada, there was a woman that was forced to deal with a broken wrist for two weeks before she could see a Doctor to set it and put it in a cast.
I'm not against people having healthcare, I don't think that anyone should be left to suffer or die.
However, I feel that the only people that are going to benefit from this are people that are already on government aid for healthcare. And the unintended consequences on the entire health system could be pretty bad.
I was on Cobra, after I finished college, paid a lot of money for it too, but it was good healthcare. The person I was employed by paid for my healthcare that I had. Cobra only lasts for so long, so i had to find healthcare from a different company. No one would cover me because of my preexisting conditions, which are listed under cancer.
Here in TN we have TennCare which is basically medicare. Government run. Even with the HIPPA act, and being my last and only resort, they wouldn't cover me. The TennCare system is abused by people that don't need it, use it to get prescriptions that they sell, make false claims and like welfare use it because its free and they don't have to work for it.
So instead of begging the government to take care of me and saying, "oh its okay if you don't take care of the tumor growing back inside my effing head", because that was one of the limitations that were to be placed. I moved to Nashville area, got a job with health insurance, and because of the HIPPA act, I was able to get health insurance that covers everything. I'm on medicine now that would normally cost 50.00 a PILL that I take three times a week and with my health insurance costs me $15 for 16 pills. And sometime, when I decide to have children, any problems I have getting pregnant that happen because of the tumor, will be covered.
So, excuse me for not feeling like people should depend on the government for everything.
Maybe I am pessimistic, maybe I don't think that people should be taken care of like little babies all their lives, maybe I think that people should have to work for what they earn. Maybe I haven't felt like the Government run programs that are in place now work worth a damn. The only things the government runs that work is the military and the post office. They should stick to those, and maybe fix the other programs already in place before implementing another one.
I read the plan for the healthcare, I listened to Obama on the TV. It sounds great, looks good on paper, I just have no confidence in the government controlling it well, and less confidence in the leeches in society.
PS, maybe you should learn about people before jumping to conclusions about them.