06-27-2009, 08:51 AM
zdunklee Wrote:Sunshyne, I have to say you keep talking about "free" healthcare, and from all the articles I have read, there has never been a mention of it being free at all. We already have a system in place for basically free healthcare. This healthcare would be a government sponsored plan that you do have to pay for, but they won't deny you for pre-existing conditions. I also read where there is now talk about having a everyone must have healthcare mandate on the federal level much like auto insurance in most states, which could really be bad for some.
I'm not going to sway either way really until I hear the exact plan they end up with, it has potential to be a great plan, but at the same time could fail miserably. I still think it is at least worth a shot either way.
Well out of the proposals i have seen it is similar to the one that Japan has. The only difference is that I think you will also have a primary choice along with the freedom to choose a supplemental. So I don't see what is wrong. and anyone that doesn't fall under the guidelines for the regular insurance would be able to fall under the guidelines for the free healthcare.
If you look that is kind of how things are now, except for the fact that we do not have an actual low cost alternative as in japan, and this is the part that would help people. If you are making minimum wage and your only choice is a healthcare plan that costs almost 100 a month just for you, that is more than likely going to be a choice that a person opt's out of the insurance, but under a Japan-like plan you would have to pay about 23 to 40 bucks a month. This is a fair cost. Every state has it's own free health care program that can be obtained for people who fall under the certain level of income. Now the problem with the way we have it set up now is that there are people who have jobs that offer an obscene healthcare plan that isn't worth getting, or healthcare plans can turn people away, which is pretty rotten.
As far as mandating healthcare the main thing I see pushed with this is something that states are starting to do on their own. This is mandating healthcare for children. That is an understandable rule to have it like that, especially with the SCHIP program and this I don't think anyone should disagree with because well it's about kids.
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