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- Jack - 11-22-2006
No. If it meant that much to me, I would have waited outside Target. The line was much lower, but I would have had to wait all night.
I don't do the whole cold weather thing. I hate cold weather. Waiting outside for the launch of a damn video game wasn't worth it.
I'd rather wait til next year than spend a night out in the cold.
As soon as I can get enough money saved, I am selling my house and moving to a warmer climate.
- Keyser Soze - 11-22-2006
no i can wait, i just thought jack had some pull.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
Yeah I figured if anyone had some juice with that kinda shit, it'd be jack.
poser!
- Gooch - 11-22-2006
Keyser Soze Wrote:can you get me a PS3?
why waste your time?
ps3: priced awfully.
wii: annoying after 7 days of using that overrated joystick. (Intellevision was novel at the time too). games will be spotty except for some gems (zelda). lack of technology will eventually put it where it belongs...in the kids room. its a toy.
360: only viable one out there. cheaper so you aren't saddled with the HD DVD, but have a choice. better networking. better game deals. Halo. Done.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
Gooch got the juice now, kid!
- Galt - 11-22-2006
Sony is losing $300 on every PS3 sold. The thought that it's priced awfully and they are ripping people off is just wrong.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
Oh noes, you bastards are taking food of sonys babies mouths!
- Gooch - 11-22-2006
also the fact that Sony is banking entireally on BluRay succeeding when they have a calvacade of failures....MiniDisc, Beta, any many other areas where they stubbornly held on to something well past the point of no return. now, instead, they pile into BluRay with very little strengths beyond graphics on a device and market that is looking for convergence and networking. microsoft, warts and all, are still with an advantage there, and banking on HD DVD, and is not beholden to it failing like Sony is. the HD DVD is a seperate piece to the Xbox 360, and keeps costs to $300 for a base, $400 for a HD, and another $200 if you want a HD DVD ability. These give people choice and the fact they have a year already in market plus some very savvy software moves (purchasing good game developers...Bungie, Rare, etC) they also assure consumers of good games.
I see Sony as actually never moving ahead of Xbox 360 and even behind the Wii (who gets the children market plus old Nintendo fans). I am not a stockholder or financial wiz, but for a layman like me, I see this is Sony's deathknell down the line. these days, the new market is choice, cost and selection.
- Mad - 11-22-2006
The only advantage to the Blu-Ray is the amount of space on the disks. But, there is a downside if your drive only reads/writes at 1x, that is just too freaking slow.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
Gooch Wrote:also the fact that Sony is banking entireally on BluRay succeeding when they have a calvacade of failures....MiniDisc, Beta, any many other areas where they stubbornly held on to something well past the point of no return. now, instead, they pile into BluRay with very little strengths beyond graphics on a device and market that is looking for convergence and networking. microsoft, warts and all, are still with an advantage there, and banking on HD DVD, and is not beholden to it failing like Sony is. the HD DVD is a seperate piece to the Xbox 360, and keeps costs to $300 for a base, $400 for a HD, and another $200 if you want a HD DVD ability. These give people choice and the fact they have a year already in market plus some very savvy software moves (purchasing good game developers...Bungie, Rare, etC) they also assure consumers of good games.
I see Sony as actually never moving ahead of Xbox 360 and even behind the Wii (who gets the children market plus old Nintendo fans). I am not a stockholder or financial wiz, but for a layman like me, I see this is Sony's deathknell down the line. these days, the new market is choice, cost and selection.
Gooch just totally owned Galt!
- Galt - 11-22-2006
I wasn't challenging the premise, just the common misconception that Sony is ripping people off.
That Microsoft has built their business around the fact that they AREN'T short sightedly greedy (separating out the components as compared to Sony forcing your buy their technology) is similar to what they did with the PC (letting other companies make software to run on their OS as opposed to Apple who forced everyone to buy everything from Apple directly) and other instances is a reason why Bill Gates is God, Microsoft is the best company on earth.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
Valid point
- Gooch - 11-22-2006
Sony isn't ripping anyone off, just not offering much choice for a main demographic that is young adults and kids who have cost as a major consideration. they are actually delivering value...b/c the regular rate of a BluRay device is over $1000, and you get one as part of the PS3 for $600. Problem is that most people aren't interested yet b/c BluRay's quality is beyond all TVs right now, and that any new tech is way too expensive. Plus, HD DVD and BluRay are both unquantified new techs in terms of being the "standard". Both have major corps on either side. It will be a format war. And what will dictate victory, thus affect gaming, is the price and availability...and how that equates to sales. Who can get BluRay or HD DVD in stores and in your hands...who will corner the markets. VHS won b/c it was cheaper and more available, it was certainly not better..and the fact BluRay is the better product means nothing.
it'll be interesting, to say the least.
- Keyser Soze - 11-22-2006
i don't like the xbox interface or the clunky controller. sony is just way better at everything they do, style-wise and ergonomics wise, than microsoft. i prefer sony for the same reason i now prefer apple over microsoft. i much prefer the OS X interface over windows, and i'm willing to pay a premium in price for it.
- Gooch - 11-22-2006
i happen to agree with you there...Sony has excellent industrial designers. the OS X interface i'm halfsies with you on. personally i don't like how they function half the time...but on the look and feel....definately on point.
- GonzoStyle - 11-22-2006
I played kung-fu on my 8-bit nintendo, that shit still owns. Two buttons is all you need.
- Gooch - 12-11-2006
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Will Blu-ray Zap PlayStation 3?
Sony may have miscalculated when it decided to include the advanced high-definition Blu-ray drive in its PlayStation 3 devices. While Sony is marketing the device as the possible center of a home theater system, the average game-device buyer is not necessarily looking to play high-definition movies with it, several analysts have concluded. Yankee Group analyst Michael Goodman told Reuters, "Blu-ray is adding $150 to $200 to the product. They've created something that is not for today's market. It's not a market driver, it's only driving the price higher."
i'm a fuckin genius.
- Galt - 12-11-2006
MSFT is the best company ever.
- Goatweed - 12-11-2006
Gooch Wrote:<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2006-12-11/">http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2006-12-11/</a><!-- m -->
Will Blu-ray Zap PlayStation 3?
Sony may have miscalculated when it decided to include the advanced high-definition Blu-ray drive in its PlayStation 3 devices. While Sony is marketing the device as the possible center of a home theater system, the average game-device buyer is not necessarily looking to play high-definition movies with it, several analysts have concluded. Yankee Group analyst Michael Goodman told Reuters, "Blu-ray is adding $150 to $200 to the product. They've created something that is not for today's market. It's not a market driver, it's only driving the price higher."
additionally, blu-ray really shines with a 1080p HDTV, which currently I'd guess less than 1% of households have and theyre on average going for $3k a piece. So basically you need to dop $700-$800 to fully enjoy the console (including games), but now another $3k on a TV that you really dont need since most over-the-air and cable/sat HDTV signals are 1080i, NOT 1080p, to fully appreciate the PS3.
Seems a bit much to me.