There's a 40 something year old pitcher out there - with a line that looks like this...

[The Jays]

7-3, 1.41 ERA

[crx girl]

sucks, don't it

[Galt]

if his team wasn't atrocious, he should be 17-0

[The Jays]

I think we were saying the same thing about Randy Johnson last year.

[Galt]

We still are.

[GonzoStyle]

The best pitcher I ever saw, no doubt.

Maybe he'll start slowing down at 50.

[Galt]

No one compares to Pedro that I've seen.

I saw two different Pedro near perfect games in Boston.

One was an 18 strikeout game where he gave up two hits, I think. He was a machine.

[GonzoStyle]

Pedro for about 4 years was probably the most dominant pitcher in all of baseball and his late 90's stats are amazing but the longevity of clemens is more amazing. He's done this for a very long time now and he's as good as ever at 42 years.

[Galt]

Oh yeah, I completely agree. It's like Tom Seaver vs. Sandy Koufax (though Clemens is about a billion times better than Seaver)

Pedro's '97-'03 is about as good as anyone's ever been, but when Clemens and even RJ have been at that level for more than a decade, you can't really say that Pedro's better than Clemens.

I was just saying that of the pitchers I've seen (Clemens, Ryan, Pedro, RJ, I'm sure some others) Pedro was incomparably dominant.

[The Jays]

Randy was dominant today.

[GonzoStyle]

Koufax's accomplishments are astounding but every fuckin time you start talking about baseball with jews around thats their fuckin ace in the hole, its like marciano for white people.