01-03-2007, 02:03 AM
Hoon Wrote:i'm just saying being happy or sad about saddam being hung is a completely seperate issue. i don't buy into the whole, 'we're no beter than them', garbage either.
You can't be happy nor sad about some fuck from the other side of the world whose never done anything that directly affected your life. That's why most of us spend all this time trying to lay out a justification first for either our yes or no answers; say I'm happy that he's dead, ok, why should I be happy? Because now he can't opress those Kurds and Shi'ites that I was oh so close to? Because he can't fuck with the oil I'm gonna use to take a trip to Best Buy? He didn't need to be dead for me to be safer, he could have been thrown in a jail in a third world country for that matter. So say I'm sad that he's dead, that's probably alot easier for alot of people, because we still have troops over there, and they have to face Sunnis and Ba'athist loyalist all the time, who are now gonna be megapissed when they catch the video of Shi'ite pricks chanting al-Sadr's name and laughing and dancing around his dead hanging corpse, so now they'll have to deal with mega-pissed Sunnis AND Shi'ites who set up bombs to make us leave. Our moral high ground is what got us into this mess, and we ain't gaining any elevation by killing more people.
Hoon Wrote:even if he becomes a martyr [which he won't - didn't happen with zarqwai like everyone said would happen], it doesn't matter. the insurgency doesn't need martyr's to motivate them to fight. the only role supposed martyr's play is in the mind of anti-war americans who think they mean anything. martyr's are like the religion of islam. they're no more than mere excuses for lunatics to do what they do. excuses, not motivators.
Zarqawi was a Jordanian terrorist for hire, of course he didn't become a martyr, because he was a dick who travels around looking to start shit. Hussein, on the other hand, is from Tikrit, Iraq, came to power because he amassed a large backing, helped overthrow the previous asshole, then kicked the shit out of a lot of Iranians, and is a legend to the people on his side of the Islam, the Sunnis. Yes, the Shi'ites don't need any more motivation to fight aside from the fact that us Western infidels are walking around on holy ground, which is basically the entire Middle East to them, and now, we've really pissed off the more secular Sunnis, who will consider him a martyr and their last hope against the Shi'ites.