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ewwfahh's beer
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 4:44 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Feb. 02
quote:

Are you saying that's A great marketing strategy or are you calling someone a tool?


I'm not calling anyone a tool, I prefer NOT to call names.

As you said, I stated that it's a great marketing strategy.

Give me more beer
PatCooper
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 6:14 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Anthony was on his show for a Sam Kinison impersonation contest



Ummmm...No he was there for a Jackie impersonation contest.


quote:

If you dont want to converse, then dont post at all.


Who made you the message board police?

quote:

The fact is, Howard is still entertaining to millions, look at the ratings, he still doubles O&A, plus, he's in the prime-time of radio (mornings).


He may still be entertaining millions, but in most markets he has NO competition. And you cant compare his ratings to O+A's since they dont compete against each other. I enjoy both shows.


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AhPussa
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 6:59 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Mar. 01
I've listened to Howard since '88. He peaked around 93-95.

Billy West (Futurama) was the best thing on his show.

Opie knows radio and is twisted but Anthony (alone) is funnier and more talented that both Howard and Billy.

"WaSup My Spoiled Fish!!"


Pinch the helmet cause he said that about him when they went do that thing about going to the same place after that.
Skeet Slambone
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 7:11 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Dec. 00
Are you sure it was a Jackie impersonation? I seem to remember him saying his Kinison was so good because he could do the talking sam and not the screaming one, like EVERYONE else does. Again, I COULD BE WRONG. So trying being a little less condescending when you tell me I'm wrong. (pat cooper not you eww)

PR HEAT
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 7:47 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Mar. 02
I think Howard is over the hill, old and tired and bored with what he does.
The man has lost his edge.

naganooch
posted on 03-07-2002 @ 9:54 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jun. 01
To the douches who say, Howard is best, or O&A is best, WHO THE FUCK CARES??!?!? The shows are on at different times. Grow up, listen to one, listen to both but shut the fuck up! This crap is getting old, on this board and on the air. Howard is a whiner and O&A are now whiners too.

Elder
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 7:12 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
Ah, Stern has had one pay per view event and the reason he did it was not for money but to be able to not be censored.

Stern is very conscious of the fans and not ripping them off and selling every thing imaginable like KISS.

Gotta get your facts straight or you end up looking silly.


*passes out after posting*
ewwfahh's beer
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 10:54 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Feb. 02
Elder, you are very right on this one.

If you really look at it (and I'm a huge, huge O&A fan but I'm not a parrot), O&A do more to "use" fans than Howard has ever did.

WOW stickers, WOW shirts etc. Now most of that was probably the radio stations idea but you must admit, Stern has never used his audience as a walking commercial.

And don't start telling me O&A give out WOW stickers for the good of the fans.

Listen, I don't blame O&A for this, it's a great idea and I'm sure SOME people do get "wowed" every once in a while but it helps O&A more than you.

And don't jump on my dick people, I'm not bashing O&A, I'm just having a suitable conversation.



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PeterDragon
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 11:06 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
Elder, get YOUR facts right.
Were you a fan when he did his pay-per-view? I was. He bitched and moaned about how little money he got, about how the cable operators were making money. I believe (but am not 100% sure) there was more than one pay per view event. There was the Ba Ba booey one that everyone remembers, but I remember the Miss Howard Stern, as well as charging tix to see him play tennis, etc, in addition to early in his career when he did weekends at comedy club in NJ. (club b'nai).
If he wasn't interested in the money, he would have charged for his costs only, and not bitched about how little he made.

Did he want creative control - yes, but don't discount the money - it wasn't cheap. And why else sell the video afterwards?
I don't begrudge him from selling stuff, but he shuts down sites that he cannot make money off of, indicating what he is most interested in.

Don't get fooled that he doesn't want to sell cheap crap because he doesn't want to rip off fans. Bull. Most of the things he was talking about is the FREE give-a-ways that stations normally do to promote shows. Even Stern's biggest critics recognize that he is smart, especially when it comes to promoting himself. He wants to have creative control over everything with his name on it.

Don't confuse it with WOW - that is promotion. No one says people get real benefit from it, except to promote the station. Stern doesn't want anything like that because he can't control it. It doesn't make him worse for it, but that isn't what we mean by stern charging for everything.

O&A allow a web site to download some of their bits, etc. Not only don't O&A have a problem with this site, Anthony has posted here and has made mentions about what is said here, meaning that he reads it. Stern refuses to have a site because he feels he cannot get anything out of it. As a matter of fact, he has shut down sites, claiming they infringe on his copyrighted material.

Elder is NOT right on this one -



This message was edited by PeterDragon on 3-8-02 @ 11:25 AM
Mayor of Sloatsburg
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 1:14 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

Are you sure it was a Jackie impersonation? I seem to remember him saying his Kinison was so good because he could do the talking sam and not the screaming one, like EVERYONE else does. Again, I COULD BE WRONG. So trying being a little less condescending when you tell me I'm wrong.
Skeet -- Again, you ARE wrong.

It was a Jackie impersonation contest; this is well documented.

Hope that wasn't too "condescending."

"Save my ups, deek."

This message was edited by Mayor of Sloatsburg on 3-8-02 @ 1:16 PM
Syndrummer
LOOK!! All my "N"s are capitalized!!!
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 1:41 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Mar. 02
Just because you were once "the best" doesn't mean you will be forever. The fact is that he doesn' act like the common guy any more. For the longest time that is what he prided himself on. Its hard to try to act like a regular guy when all you do is name-drop about who you're hanging with or where you're going. He's not about his fans anymore, and O&A are. Thats why O&A have a great fan base.



This message was edited by Syndrummer on 3-8-02 @ 1:49 PM
ewwfahh's beer
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 2:29 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Feb. 02
Dragon, It seems you post without a climax.

I don't know how having a pay per view event is "ripping off the fans," I don't even know if you are stating that.

In terms of "using" fans, O&A have passed Howard.

That's a fact.

And, I'm not saying that's a bad thing but it's just a fact.

Give me more beer
PatCooper
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 4:42 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Skeet -- Again, you ARE wrong.

It was a Jackie impersonation contest; this is well documented.

Hope that wasn't too "condescending."



Mayor you stole my fucking post you bastard. :)


quote:

I seem to remember him saying his Kinison was so good because he could do the talking sam and not the screaming one, like EVERYONE else does



If my memory is correct i think Ant did the Kinison off the air and Stern said he had a future in radio doing impersonations.


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naganooch
posted on 03-08-2002 @ 10:09 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jun. 01
O&A have a lot of talent, but they seem to be hitting burnout. I really miss the old days. My feelings for their show is starting to get like my feelings for Stern's show. Its good, but I miss the glory days. Those of you who have listened from the beginning know what I mean, whether you admit it or not.

Down.Wit.Da.Syndrome
posted on 03-09-2002 @ 3:12 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Mar. 02
Check one..two..is this fuckin thing on...

...because a chicken sedan would have four doors-Wackafuckindoodle
PeterDragon
posted on 03-12-2002 @ 9:21 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

I don't know how having a pay per view event is "ripping off the fans," I don't even know if you are stating that.

In terms of "using" fans, O&A have passed Howard.

That's a fact.



Talk about someone without a climax...

The point of the pay-per-view is Stern chooses to use his fans to sell himself when he can. You said that he is virtuous for not having "Howard Stern mugs". I told you the mug idea was a FREE give away, and the real reason that he didn't do it is that he couldn't make money. All of his endevours are to make money, which is his perogative - just don't make it noble.

This was all in response to your claim that giving away FREE WOW stickers, and allowing/participating in a FREE website which includes material fans may have missed, not seen, or simply enjoyed, somehow can be interpreted as O&A using fans. this makes no sense to me.

There are fact, there are rumors, there are opinions. If you want to have the opinion that Stern is funnier than O&A - fine, that is your opinion.

If you want to say O&A use their fans and Stern doesn't, give facts that make sense.



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