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| ShavinBush | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 1:09 AM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01  | Well put Straw, speaking as a registered CT gun owner. When you make gun laws more strict you only HURT those whom are looking to obtain them LEGALLY, the problem lies in the judicial system itself and its failures to rehabilitate criminals and its failures in allowing people whom are arrested for posession of firearms (whether stolen or unlicensed) to use Accelerated Rehabilitation (Get Out Of Jail Free Card) to opt out of jail on the first offense. Stricter penalties and enforcement could go along way in keeping guns where they belong: In the hands of REGISTERED Gun Owners! Long Live Chuck Heston and the NRA! ------------------------------ An Adoptee of Grumpy's Family of Wayward F-tards and Midgets. ------------------------------ | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 1:41 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | I am seriously in disbelief reading this thread. I am at the point where I'd like to scream at you people. I am almost shaking.... Yes Gagootz, stupid fucking liberal faggots. The same people who are responsible for welfare, medicaire, social security, civil rights, women's rights, labor laws, anti-trust laws, and just about every other progressive statute. And I encourage you all to pick up a copy of the U.S. Constitution. The 2nd ammendment is not only a historical relic. And no taking fire-arms away from people is not the path to tyranny. History proves that quite well, even contemporary society proves it. That is the least plausible and substantiated of your claims. But the Constitution does not grant every common citizen the right to bear arms, it grants the right to bear arms to a "well-regulated militia" which was referring historically to the state militias which were the backbone of our national defense, before we had a massive standing army. And what have militias brought us lately? Nothing but trouble, and domestic terrorism. Yippee, where do I sign up?  Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| ShavinBush | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 2:22 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | Froy - I have to disagree, the Constitution provides for Militia and otherwise. And I believe the Tyranny portion is an ACTUAL quote from the Constitution from Thomas Jefferson. ------------------------------ An Adoptee of Grumpy's Family of Wayward F-tards and Midgets. ------------------------------ | ||||
| Crash_NYC
| posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:41 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | I grew up in Detroit and listened to Nugent when he was a regular on WLLZ's morning show 15 years ago (listening to my walkman on the schoolbus). The first few times you listen to him you think: "Wow, he's got some interesting points to make." But the next 500 times you hear him spewing the same crap over and over and over again, you just really want him to realize that he's made his fucking point about this and to move on to a new cause. I swear, they could have played a tape from 15 years ago today, and it would be the same shit, VERBATIM. I actually got a little nostalgic listening to him today (for about 5 minutes), then it was: turn it off, Turn It Off, TURN IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!! What an f'n blowhard, man! This message was edited by Crash_NYC on 6-14-01 @ 5:53 AM | ||||
| WhatsInMyPants | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:33 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | how could you not think he is one entertaining working hard playing hard sonofabitch? | ||||
| MilK PukiN DavE | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:44 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jun. 01 | I think you guys are being to harsh on The Nuge! The dude is obviously trying not only to promote himself, but his damn political views, and it seems that people just jump on O&A on those one in a million occassions that they touch upon "intelligent" radio. I dunno. Label me a dumb "newbie" or whatever, but I thought the whole Nuge thing was pretty cool, and no, I am not a 6756765207 year old going through a midlife crisis, so don't even TRY thinking thats why I am saying this. I am the youthful Milk Pukin Dave! DAMN YOU! Using my 15 minutes of fame to draw attention to my name. | ||||
| EAFofNY | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:52 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | I thought before I posted:quote: Too funny. When our government comes a knockin, they won't be carrying handguns, hunting rifles and crossbows. So unless you own a few thousand Abrahms tanks, an airlift wing, a couple hundred Hueys, Cobras & Apaches you're in for quite a fight. I'd rather have a Jewish lawyer on my side, but hey, it's a big country and people can have as many guns as they want. Still "just lurking" My farts have bass. | ||||
| whichwaymediumorrare | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:53 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | i have heard him on the chick show a couple times.GAGOOTZ's is right.same questions get same answers.how many differt ways can you respond.to each his own.this is america.you have choices.also nugent hit it right on the head,if you have to resort to calling him assrammer or anything else,guess what he one. This message was edited by whichwaymediumorrare on 6-14-01 @ 11:31 AM | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:39 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | You're worried about tyranny?! You think getting rid of the 2nd ammendment is going to turn us into a dictatorship?! There are strict gun-control laws in Canada, England, Scandanavia, most of Western Europe yet I don't see any problems arising. I don't see a Fourth Reich being established. And Whichway - shrink your sig Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| Arpikarhu Harmless Teddy I wish Maynard was still posting here so I could implant my head up his ass. Needle dick, bear salesman. I think I'm a revolutionary. Actually, I'm a one trick pony. I enjoy C&BT | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:42 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 01 | quote: i think im not going out on a limb by saying that we are far past worrying about our government becoming a tyranny. it takes them 6 months to agree on state birds let alone an armed uprising against its citizens. the amendment is outdated. merely a rationalization for gun nuts. Arpi Karhu Kauppias Forever!!! graduted by CRXGIRL  Master of the Air Guitar !!!! | ||||
| maryjrottencrotch | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 1:13 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | i found that every interesting and enjoyable and considering i don't listen to other shows i don't care and guess what every person does when they promote themselves on radio or television | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 1:26 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | Nugent is the other end of the spectrum. There are so many people out there (Rosie O'Donnel) who are screaming to get rid of every single gun in the country. PERIOD. It actually helps to have someone else on the other side (Nugent, Heston) arguing to keep every single gun. I'm over here in the middle. It's impossible and impractical to get rid of every single gun. Law abiding citizens might turn their's in, but the criminals would still have them. And there are legitimate uses for them (hunting, target shooting). All the current laws should be enforced (which they're not) and those who use guns illegally should be punished severely. And every gun owner should be properly trained and licensed.  "I don't read books, but I have friends who do." -Presidential Candidate George W. Bush "I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada." - Britney Spears | ||||
| GAGOOTZ | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 4:45 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: No offense but you are completly wrong. Violent Crime has skyrocketed in Britian now that they can't carry firearms. The centuries old "Bobbies", those british guys running around with big hats, little bats, and whistles have been known for making law and order without firearms. Because of the banning of guns, the Bobbies are now carrying guns. quote: Yes Froy that would be great, but until such time that the Government and Criminals don't have guns, we MUST stay armed. What kind of Free Country would we live in where the Government and Criminals ruled us with guns and we had no way to protect ourselves. quote: "Your days of finger-banging old Mary Jane rotten crotch through her pretty pink panties are OVER! | ||||
| EAFofNY | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:02 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: How often do you find yourself in so much danger where you need your gun to protect yourself? Still "just lurking" My farts have bass. | ||||
| kevin from ct
| posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | nugent blows. And apparently you can discover that on any FM station 24/ | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Froy, I love ya like a brother, I really do. But I need to state my case on this one. The democratic party is the reason for civil rights and women's rights? Since when? It was the republican party that passed the 19th amendment that gave women the right to vote. The admendment was rejected by a democratic congress 3 times until the republicans gained control. As for civil rights. The democratic party has oppressed minorities, not helped them. The republican party passed the Emancipation Proclamation Act that set slaves free (to put it in simple terms) and the civil rights act was passed by a republican congress. The democratic party voted against it. Infact, Al Gore's father was a major key factor in it not being passed several times. If not for the Republican Congress that term who knows how long it would have taken. And yes, the concept of welfare was thought of by a democratic president. However, it was suppose to be a helping hand. The democratic party of the last 40 years has turned it into a heavy hand. If the democratic party, these liberals, are out to help women and minorities then please explain one thing they did to help and not oppress in nearly 50 years of consecutive control over Congress? Froy, you're talking to a liberal here. I was a very proud dem for years. Until oneday, I realized through research, that the party I was so proud of had a zero accomplishment rate and did more harm than good. I said that all in one breath. Now, I need to go breath. LMAO  | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | OMG, I think my head is going to explode. You know what, it's impossible to argue this with people like you Gagootz, because you're hopelessly uninformed, and your argument defies simple common sense logic and reason... Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 5:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Excuse me, but the reason why our Founding Father's created and drafted our Bill of Rights and our Constitution is because they were tired of being oppressed by their Government. They wanted a Government that did not dicate the manner in which indivduals would live their lives. They did not want this country to become what they left behind. Our decisions and possessions should be ours to acquire and ours to dispose off. When you allow Government to over step their bounds and enter your personal life and begin to dictate what you can and can not do and what you can have and can't have, that my friend is the beginning of Tyranny. That is what our Founding Father's did not want for us. So, for those who are unsatified with the way this country has been established then I suggesst you move to a socialist country where your needs will be better served. We were meant to be a democratic republic, not socialist or communistic. And that is that. | ||||
| NJDude | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 8:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jun. 00 | I just think he's a great guitar player and his songs kick ass. Come on Stranglehold, Motor City Madhouse, Cat Scratch Fever etc. I don't agree with everything he says but I'm justing talking musically here folks!!!! E-Mail Me | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 8:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | The first modern civil rights programs were outlined by Truman, and were radical for the time. Yet they were consistently voted down by the Republican held 80th Congress known as the Do Nothing Congress. It wasn't until a democratic majority was won in '48 that any civil rights progress was made. And I am quite pleased with the U.S., but to say that it was founded perfectly is sheer nonsense. Are you pleased with every law? Were you pleased that when the country women couldn't vote? That slavery was legal? That the country allowed for segregation, abortions were illegal, etc. etc. I don't think you do. If you won't stand by those historical relics why stand by the 2nd ammendment. Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 9:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: No, I wasn't pleased when women couldn't vote. What I am pleased with is that Jeannette Rankin a Republican woman from Montana was the first woman in the House and that she helped to polish up the 19th amendment which was passed in 1919 by a republican congress that gave women the right to vote. The same ademendement that sat through 3 Democratic Congresses with no positive outcome. Was I or am I proud of slavery? No. That's why I hold great esteem that the Republican Party created and legislated the Emancipation Proclamation Act, which freed the slaves and made them no longer 3/5 of a human being but considered in the eyes of the government a whole individual. Is my party perfect? No. Is any party perfect? No and it is naive to think one is. But have the laws or amendements that we as a party have created and/or legislated oppressed women or minorities? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Here's a good indication. JC Watts is an African American from Oaklahoma that is at this time our youngest member of the House. He is a republican. The Republican Party has great esteem for him. The Democrates call him a fraud and an Uncle Tom. Why are the liberals bashing a politician that's a minority? Trying to oppress again? Do you know how stupid the Democratic Party would feel if the Republicans had JC on a Presidential Ticket and he won? Don't think it's impossible the party has made remarkable changes and we are reverting back to our beginnings. That is a good thing. As for JC, every politican I have ever spoken to that is a Republican forsees wonderful things for him. Hell, I hold office in the damn Party and I am a woman and I am bi and I have done some things I am ashamed of and no one in my party has ever put me down for who I am or what I have done. However, every liberal I have ever talked to has found my lifestyle to be immoral. Like I said, I wouldn't have my liberal views and be a republican if the party was horrific in anyway. I am very proud of our accomplishments. Something is right when we have been a nationally recognized party for lesser time than the democratic party and we have created and/or legislated almost half what has been accomplished in the last 100 years of Congress. I am proud to be a memeber and a believer in the Republican Party. This message was edited by njstrawberry on 6-14-01 @ 10:11 PM | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:14 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | By the way our Library of Congress and our National Archives both state that: "The 80th Congress, elected in 1946, tried to reverse the New Deal by reducing the federal budget." - geeeeee that seems really do nothing to me. However, considering how over inflated our government has become within the last 50 years of Democratic Congress (Prior to 1994 - Republican took control then) I guess reducing the federal budget does seem harsh to liberal socialist individuals. (NOT SAYING YOU ARE ONE FROY - JUST MAKING CONVO HUN) | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:19 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | I'm not trying to argue liberalism vs. conservatism or republican vs. democrat here. In essence every progressive law is liberal in relative terms. My point in bringing up liberalism was to show the over-generalization of the terms. I am talking about fundamental civic philosophy. You people are constantly asserting that the right to bear arms is what keeps individuals free which in fact it does not. People are so wrapped up in the need to own a gun that they feel they're being dominated and controlled by it, when in fact by their own admission they are being controlled and dominated by and unsubstantiated a fear of repression. The Constitution has been and can be ammended, just because things are written in it does not mean they are sacred and infallible. It is admitted within the document itself that it is open to interpretation and change. It is vaguely written to allow for progression and to allow for it's adaptation to enlightenment. If people realized that change does not equate to communism or to socialism, that the document isn't perfect, and that asserting that fact does not make one a traitor or unpatriotic, then we wouldn't have these problems. I'll be honest gun control is an issue that hits home. But simple reason and statistical evidence shows that the answer isn't more guns, it's less guns! Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| GOD of PHUK
| posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:38 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Usually I love to open my fat yap and preach on hot-bed issues like these. But this one is just too old and too worn-out. Froy is right, though. Less guns=more gooder. Less guns, less shootings, less violence all around. Maybe we'd regress back to slashing each other with swords, but I prefer those to guns. little newbie since 5-31-01 | ||||
| The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Statistics can be twisted to accommodate either side in this. Boooze was outlawed by a constitutional amendment. It didn't work. Even if you get rid of the 2nd amendment, there will still be guns. There are alot of people who would like to get rid of the first amendment. Should we get rid of that too? Part of the cost of freedom, is to let people do things you don't like. I don't like when the Nazi or KKK rally, but they have the right. Just in case you think the government won't come into your house with guns drawn, maybe this will jog your memory  This message was edited by The Painter on 6-14-01 @ 10:47 PM | ||||
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