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| DonWest | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:37 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01  | If you are talking about him being a hypocrite cause that jerkoff mancow is on than you are wrong. He is not on O'Reilly's show... Tonights show was talking to the people about things they do. He did not talk to O&A about what other people on wnew do he spoke to them about the show They do P.S. The reason I like O'Rielly is the way he challenges that fat fuck al sharpton when he is on the show...I wish someone would kill that fat cock | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:38 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: You obviously don't know what role he plays on The Fox News Channel, now do you? He isn't per say a Fox News Contributor. Someone deemed that is in the caliber of Fred Barnes for example who appears on several different shows on The Fox News channel offering his opinion on political topics. Mancow is broadcasted in the morning , on Fox and Friends as someone who offers a humorous side for a whole 60 seconds on the topic of the day. So, to answer your question, NO. ;)  This message was edited by njstrawberry on 3-29-02 @ 12:06 AM | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:44 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | You're missing my point here. This is basically the deal. How much shit do you think o'Reilly would get from his higher ups if he commented on Mancow, or worse yet, proved the FCC's point by showing footage of Mancow's show that was over the top. I find it a bit strange that he showed nothing affiliated with Fox on his show. Considering some of the stuff in thier track record, it does come off a little odd, and slightly hypocritical. | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:46 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: quote: I see you got my point. Thanks for understanding and have a pleasant evening. :) | ||||
| DonWest | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:48 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | I agree with nj...I like his show also cause he doesnt take peoples bullshit he gets to the point and it is not like other news shows where they just sit there and kiss famous peoples asses just because they have money. | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 10:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: No, I understand your point, I just do not agree with it. This Special was not about all Radio Hosts, or even radio hosts in general and most certainly was not about FCC fines and regulations against anyone. This Special was about those whom affect the children of our society - the media consisting of movies, music, radio and tv. Had it been a show about Radio hosts only and their affect on society or children in general and didn't comment on Mancow at all then I would agree with you but it wasn't. Are you sure you watched the same show as the rest of us? And what stuff in what track record? And what seems a little odd? That he didn't address a point of interest you have? Well, maybe when he does a show about FCC fines and regulations, he will. :) This message was edited by njstrawberry on 3-28-02 @ 10:57 PM | ||||
| IAmMighty | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:04 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | FOX waving the banner of righteousness. What did they preempt to put this show on animal attacks or scariest police chases. :) "It's raining in story land... ...stuck in the pages so long"-King's X | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | Fox's track record. One of the same mediums that he says is contributing to the "Coruption of the American Child", TV, he happens to work in. The company he works for, FOX, has historically been know to push to envelope so to speak. For example, there is at anytime more violence on a single episode of COPS, than anything else on network TV in it's time slot. What about all of the Pot and sex References on "That Seventies Show"? Yet no mention of it. The "Family Guy" time slot is one of the ones used for his special!While this COULD have been an oversight, he should have done his homework a little more. Either air an entire show devoted to O&A, WWF, or whatever. Don't paint whole mediums with broad strokes, when your own companies' canvas isn't that pretty. ***Note Here is the TV listing off the FOX TV website for the show on before this special: quote: This message was edited by krahzee on 3-28-02 @ 11:17 PM | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | here's the transcript, if watned I can mke this into a new thread just for the transcript: Bill (voice over of kids watching TV): The average American child watches 25 hours of TV a week and what are they doing when the set is off? Well the radio could be on. B (voice over during O&A montage): Opie and Anthony are the latest shock jocks to hit it big. Broadcasting on stations in the late afternoon In studio: A (on air): if there's a WOW on the vehicle, they see the WOW, pull up next to you and flash show you their beautiful breasts B (Voice over): they are heavily into one thing Opie (on air): What color panties you wearing? Anthony (on air as Vince McMahon): Take your bra off and take it off now. Interview: B: In one of the articles I read you have an interesting phrase- “cringe radio.†Opie: Right B: What's cringe radio? O: We like to make people cringe. A: Yeah O: it's kind of like when your driving on the highway and you see that car accident on the side of the road, you got to look right? We like pushing buttons. We like getting reactions. B: If I remember correctly, one of you, I don't know which one, said then you could pull out your business and…. while you were talking about the Olsen girls In studio: Anthony (on air reading from a piece of paper): Guys, pull your junk out right now, before you picture this in your head. Get some lube, whatever you want to use to crank you a batch. ‘I remember one day when Mary Kate was doing a real important scene when she's really overwhelmed and she's crying and drinking a beer in the shower because she's so stressed out I just wanted to get in the shower with her and hug her like we do at home sometimes.’ THANK YOU Interview: B: You see what I'm talking about? Is that you presented it innocent but I'm not so sure it is. O: To our listeners it's definitely innocent. B looks incredulous. O: Definitely. To our faithful listeners, they know we’re joking. B: Is there anything you won't do for radio. In studio: O (on air): we were going to do Lesbian for a day on Friday I think we're still doing it and you're going to join the parade and there was gonna be like a threesome thing happening. O (on air): Ladies that have a fantasy and haven't done anything yet we set ‘em up with another lady and they go at it. Caller: Wow, on your show: Both: yeses Interview: B: This is all about money, that's what it comes down to. Because your mercenaries. A: That's clever B: Aren't you mercenaries? A: No. We go out and we want to do a good show every day B: For the reason of... O: Not money, we're artists too O (in studio): and you'll see Becky’s lucious, luscious boobs B: You're artists? A: We like what we do and when we come off of a great show that feel we did a great show that day. We’re feeling good about it. O: We're not checking our bank accounts. B: But in general corrupting society or doing something to a kid that might throw the kid into turmoil. Do you care about that? O: Do you have any proof that we're corrupting society? B: I have no proof: A: And the proof that entertainment itself, certain types of entertainment are troubling this poor child you speak of, this child that isn't watched and isn't supervised. Is that our problem? Is that entertainment's problem? B: Isn't it everybody's problem? A: It turns out to be everyone's problem but it's not our job to fix it. We're there entertaining people. We’re entertainers, we're not psychologists, we're not doctors, we're not day care workers. B: Last Question- Do you ever feel that the younger part of your audience, again 12, 14, may want to imitate you, not really understanding that your highly paid, professional entertainers? A: Their parents should do their job, parents let them know the rights and wrongs, let them know what's appropriate, what's not, in what circumstance it is appropriate B: So it's all on the parents, none on you? A: You know something, none on us B: “None on us†that seems to be the prevailing philosophy among artists pushing their wares on American kids.  "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 3-28-02 @ 11:11 PM | ||||
| DonWest | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:13 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | KR you still dont seem to understand he does not run that company so he does not make the decisions for what airs or what doesnt. He once again was talking to people about what they do and what they have control over. Not what there company does, or what there company airs of course except Linda McMahon but she is responsible for what the WWF does since she is the CEO of the company | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:18 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | Fuck, I completely forgot about it. Did Anthony wear his best Jaegermeister shirt?  I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:26 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Once again, you are missing what this particular "special" was about. He didn't point a finger at cbs, abc, nbc in particular and leave fox out because then I would agree with you. He didn't say all media was negative, other wise he'd be including himself. What he said was that all media affects children in one way or another and then went on to show examples of how it can possibly affect them in a negative manner. I do agree with him that it does taint, jade, influence, entertain and enlighten them. I also agree that if I raise my children properly, which I feel I do, that they will know right from wrong. I firmly believe that if I am successful at being a "good" parent that there won’t be a song, a movie or a radio show that will provoke them to deviate from the good upbringing I will bestow upon them. EDIT TO ADD: When they are children - it is called parental responsibility. My parents had it, why shouldn't I? When they are adults - it is called personal responsibility. I have it, why shouldn't anyone else? This message was edited by njstrawberry on 3-28-02 @ 11:30 PM | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:30 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | NJStrawberry, As far as not pointing the finger at a network, I agree. My whole point here was that he was quick to attack non FOX owned entities, yet all of the clips he showed in between pieces, featured nothing owned by FOX. O&A were picked over Mancow for this piece and that's fine. Still he made the piece seem like the FCC does nothing to curtail this type of behavior, when somebody from his own place of employment(the FOX News division), Mancow, is sitting on over 21K in fines right now. If you are gonna objectively present a problem with something, present the good with the bad. Ie. Talk radio like this does exist and may be a bad influence on our kids. That said the FCC is taking these steps to riegn it in. He did that with the kiddie porn site and the Justice Dept. Yet no mention of Mancow's fines. That was my point. | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-28-2002 @ 11:48 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Please, read my previous posts because I am frankly tired of having to repeat myself. It is apparent that you have not the slightest idea as to what the "Special" was about. Edit: At one point within the hour special, while commenting on violence and so forth on television, he did say that FOX was guilty of that also. So, had he been afraid of his higher ups, as you put it, I believe he would not have made that comment. On that note, I am going to download some porn, listen to a little rap music, watch a violent movie and then blow up everyone on my block...err...I mean go to sleep. Night. :) This message was edited by njstrawberry on 3-29-02 @ 12:13 AM | ||||
| artistman | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 12:13 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Nov. 01 | Something they kept going back to throughout the special was that entertainment industries focused on age groups, trying to interest the children. They are such hippocrates. Because in all reality, they were putting on this performance for an age group. FOX focused this special on the baby boomers and parents ges 20-40(roughly). It was just another way to get raitings. I hate shows like this. Knowing Opie and Anthony now(having listened for almost a year now), I'm sure they had several thoughtful comebacks to the barrage of questions thrown at them, but of course their responses weren't shown. It reminds me of that Simpsons Episode where Homer had touched the babysitter's ass, trying to get the candy statuette, and appeared on a TV show to prove his innocence. They took different clips of him talking, and put a conversation together word by word, totally eliminating his purpose. It's absolutely disgusting. I would stop watching FOX television, but, ironically, FOX is the home for "The Simpsons." Go figure. I'm looking forward to O&A's response to it tommorow(well, later today). :mad: :mad: I have a magical foot; sometimes it magically appears up other people's asses. | ||||
| Joe K | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 12:17 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Sep. 00 | I got sound of O&A segment.Wav files are huge.They did a 4 minute bit[4MB wav]. The guests I saw showed that freedom of speech is alive and well here in the great ol' U.S.of A. Whether you are a rapper,rocker or "cringe radio" host you have the right to express yourself. O&A held their own in saying the parents must be responsible.O&A sure aren't.They're "Artist",formerly known as Opie. I didn't see the whole show as I was flipping back and forth between CSI[on CBS,that's a worthless plug,die get in the coffin] and O'rielly .What the F was that NAMBLA story about.I hope O&A play tape of that S***. [I'm typing radio talk,censoring myself what the F] Manson reminded me of Alice Cooper and all the stage antics.Sick looking dude though. The insane clowns were funny when they told the kid at autograph signing,now go home and smoke something. Also they commented on how insane someone was if they went out and killed someone ,like in Colonbine and was not caused by the music. O'rielly kept on alluding in the show that the "artist" and entertainers were responsible for what they say and it causes the problem with kids.Like monkey see,monkey do. Well tell those monkey brain parents to parent. (Ant your favorite comedian is on Letterman now} | ||||
| Tubesteak | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 12:37 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Oct. 01 | Nj is right Krahzee they showed clips of various Fox shows (That 70's SHow, Xfiles, Dark Angel) and he made a mention to the fact his own network is at fault as well, the fact that he didnt get across is that parents spend too much effort trying to spoil their kids and not enough time actaully raising them. They let their children be raised by daycare workers or school teachers and piss and moan when their kids are on talk shows at 13 having sex with 10 guys and shooting heroin asking idiots like Jenny jones for help. My question is isnt the media just as guilty as exploiting kids on talkshows? Its easier to blame rap music or movies or radio or tv for the lack of parenting, then you might actually have to monitor what you kids are doing...IMAGINE that??  | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 12:49 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | well as we all know it takes "a Village to raise a child" because your lazy knocked up ass is too lazy to explain things to him. I liked the constant O'Reilly "bullshit" face and the obvious bias agianst people like O&A etc. The are O&A doing it just for the money question and the "are you afraid young children will mimic you" question seemed more suited for a wrestler than a radio host. I mean what will the kids do, go around with a microphone interviewing people? "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." | ||||
| artistman | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 1:47 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Nov. 01 | quote: "Blaming guns for Colonbine is like blaming spoons for Rosie O'Donnell being FAT! Thats all I have to say about that. I have a magical foot; sometimes it magically appears up other people's asses. | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 2:02 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | Did you know that bill is getting his own radio show soon? Once again the boys will always win in the end.  - AIM:lentnyc | ||||
| Bloody Anus P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 2:08 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00 | Bill O'Reilly is now officially added to the ever-growing list of people I hate. I'm not gonna bother ranting about this 'children are being corrrupted and its all the media's fault' bullshit, most of what I think has already been posted. But the 2 things that really pissed me off were when they blamed the WWF for the retard that paralyzed himself getting tombstoned. He's a fucking moron. If he hadn't gotten tombstoned, he would have done something else equally stupid, non-wrestling related. Because HE IS A FUCKING MORON. THAT IS NOT THE WWF'S FAULT. Also when they interviewed the 12-15 year olds (yum!!) going to see American Pie 2. They talked to what, 10-15 kids, at the most? 10-15 people out of the how many thousands that went to see this movie. But it's a movie geared specifically to 12 year olds. Right. If anyone missed the O&A part of the show, let me know, I capped it and can hook you up.
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| red rocket Secret Sex Chat | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 9:51 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | What a Hypocrite Bill is. He goes to complain about these different media's of entertainment and how it negatively effects children. If he really thinks what he is saying is true wouldn't a kid watching his show last night be introduced to all of those negative things he was talking about. It makes no sense. If I was a kid watching his show I would be going out today and buying DMX and ICP cd's, the American Pie 1 & 2 movies and going to the porno sites on the internet. He basically promoted everything he said he was against. I like how he says to everyone, it for the money right? Dickhead, What are you doing? Our you working for free? SHUT Up already, It is not anyone else's job to parent your kids except the parents or if someone else is paid too. You don't have parent's that do this? O well, survival of the fittest. I am totally for none on us. This should be the new slogan. Wasn't Married with Children one of Fox's first shows? Suck it Bill. I can't wait till your daughter grows up and starts sipping the D.  NONE ON US NEVER FORGET | ||||
| Scrappleking | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 10:06 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Bill O'Reily should not have a problem with Opie and Anthony because his TV show is, and I'm sure his radio show will be, almost the exact same format. He's a little more political, and does a little more research, but he uses the same methods, say something off center, even outrageous, and people will tune in. The problem is that when people listen to O & A and hear what they are saying they either are offended and turn it off or they stay tuned and enjoy the humor. Opie and Anthony are very obvious in their humor. Bill O'Reily is not funny, and people take his conservative rants seriously. Just like Anthony wouldn't really try to have sex w/ an Olsen Twin, O'Reily probably doesn't believe half the insane shit he says. He is the Rush Limbaugh of television. His audience is made up of mindless mushheads who LOVE to be told what to think, who LOVE to have their minds made up for them. O & A may be corrupting the youth of this country, but O'Reily is corrupting the adults, the decision makers, the voters, that is much more dangerous. "Somebody took my phone number and called Afghanistan. Afghanistan! I've never talked to anyone in Afghanistan, I don't know nobody in Afghanistan, and even if did know anyone, I wouldn't talk to that Afghan ass for three hours! I won't talk to my daddy for three hours." | ||||
| njstrawberry | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 10:32 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: You couldn't be further from the truth. That would be Sean Hannity. He is the closest person on tv to Rush. Same ideology, ethics, morals, beliefs, etc etc. Bill is not, what is considered, an extreme conservative by today’s standards in the least. To put him in Rush’s league is just proving how little you know of the guy. He is against the death penalty, is pro-homosexual adoption and speaks his mind of the Presidency REGARDLESS of who holds the office. These may seem like no big deal issues to you but they are. No one, and I mean no one, who is as far off to the right of the Republican party as Rush is, would ever speak about those issues like Bill does. You can give your opinion all you want about how he handled the show and I don't care but when you start grouping him with what can be considered right wing fanatics, I get personally offended. Basically because I share many of his beliefs and I am no where near being a conservative republican. This message was edited by njstrawberry on 3-29-02 @ 10:35 AM | ||||
| Grizzly When I hibernate my cave doubles as a dutch oven. DON'T PANIC | posted on 03-29-2002 @ 10:51 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | Hm - for a guy who claims to present things "without spin," he certainly takes some liberties in chopping up the interviews, usually letting them end after he's made a sweeping point that keeps his side in the light. God I would love to hear some of the replies that got cut out. Didn't O&A say originally that they would do it only if they could record the interview as well? I'd love to hear the whole audio. And finally, in the credits, sure enough in producers there was a woman named Stephanie - I bet she's the one that got in that beer fight at Hooters. Too bad she hasn't been fired yet. It's still amazing though that a special that was originally taped back in August 2001 can be kept off air for so long as the world deals with REAL TANGIBLE FUCKING PROBLEMS and now we've come full circle, back to "the kids." If you can't do your goddamn job as a parent, don't have kids or get an abortion fuckers!  NORTON IS GOD | ||||
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