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jewdown
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 7:53 PM      
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Gun control is not the problem or the answer! There will always be guns and various weapons made to kill, and there will always be ass-holes who want to use them to kill their fellow man. What does it matter if there are no more guns? These fucked up sick sons of bitches will still want to kill their enemys, by any means necessary, instead of solving their problem peacefully. It is a matter of teaching a respect for life to ALL our children.

Sephiroth
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:08 PM      
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I really do believe that it is the parents responsibility to teach Kids right and wrong. My father always taught me that not only is this or that wrong, he told me why it was wrong. And if I fucked up major, I got a ass-whipping. I learned that Actions have reprecussions, and that I should not do something to avoid a ass kicking, but because it is wrong.



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opak
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:14 PM      
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Good parenting is the key to success here...but you DO have to look at what is successful...

Japan and UK...no guns...less shootings...

It works...to deny the facts is just ignorance...

Unicron
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:18 PM      
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i was made fun of and ridiculed in school....and i had, many times, had the feelings of killing everyone and just making everyone pay...shit like that

the diffrence is......i never did it...i knew the diffrence between right and wrong..it's ok to kill people in your head....hell, it's fun.

but i have no sympathy for retards like this kid

jewdown
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:25 PM      
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opak, I will not deny the fact that this works, but there will always be violence between children(and adults). If it's not a gun shot to the head, it's a knife stab to the chest, or a hit & run, or a home-made bomb. I know it sucks but it's the truth. It's a sad sad sad sad world. All we can do is teach our children right from wrong and hope the wrong doesn't effect them to harshly.

opak
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:25 PM      
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HOLY SHIT!!! Unicron made sense!!!

and I agree with him too!!

I was picked on all growing up...I cant count the amount of times I wanted to get back at them...these kids arent being taught right from wrong...that is the problem...

adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:30 PM      
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I forgot who said it but there are forms of revenge that aren't violent and are quite fun. I'm in school now and whenever someone's being a dick I get revenge. You could for example send a cough computer virus cough to them. Of course you shouldnt send one that proliferates itself. These kids need to realize that killing these bullies makes them worse than what they hated.



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Unicron
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:36 PM      
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i always make sense Opak

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posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:39 PM      
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Its stupid to deny that stricter gun laws wont help. Sure other crimes (knifings) will inceace, but the murder rate will go down. Is someone's right to own somthing that they will probably NEVER use more important than thousand of lives?

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DentalDamn
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:40 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
I know this is a tasteless attempt at humor... But being that the shooting took place outside of San Diego, do you think the suspect was just pissed off that the Chargers went 1-15 last year, I'd go nuts too.

Seriously what happened today was indeed a tragedy, and yet another continuation of a frightening trend. But can you automatically blame the suspects in these school shooting without wondering what was the cause, the negative factors that lead to this breakdown.

Although I do believe that what he commited was cowardly and inhumane, but he was probably the product of an abusive social situation, family life, or just absent of any real attention toward his needs and problems.

I was an outcast in my highschool, but I found better ways of dealing with the problems I faced everyday, I realized that high school was only four years of a whole life that waits ahead of you. Many of the kids who I had anger toward in high school, have matured and are now my friends, while others are stuck in their same stupid childish state, which makes them look stupid and incredulous in the real world.

What I'm saying is that before we quickly call this suspect a savage asshole, we have to examine the background and faults in his growing up process, anyone could turn into that with a lack of family, social, or psychological support.
Unicron
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:42 PM      
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Fez...people get killed with illegel guns...some shooting with registered guns happen..but they always will...but 97% of all killings with guns in the country are with illegel guns..which Gun Laws won't help

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This message was edited by Unicron on 3-5-01 @ 8:46 PM
bluetarp
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:45 PM      
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Grkqt: hold the horses. How is making a small point belittling anything. I did not mean to belittle you. However, I am not the one trying to blame the object for the action. In typical heartless liberal fashion, you try to make an argument that seems to come from the heart. Make excuses for the asshole, with an ILLEGAL WEAPON! In the past I have been held up with a knife at my throat. This doesn't empassion me to take weapons away. My baseball bat story is true. We as a society will never live on a level playing field. When you take away guns, as in the UK, there may be a lower than average incidence of gun violence, however how many more bombs go off there, like a couple days ago when the windows were blown out at a BBS building. Believe it or not, your and your liberal buds attitude towards guns actually makes misuse more likely. Rather than learning to value and protect human life, the kids pick up the messege they can get power buy wielding a gun. Just stop trying to use the excuse I don't have a heart because I am in favor of, and am a legal gun owner. Okay, screw this. I'm off the soapbox. Have a nice night gang.


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Nigel Tufnel
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 8:47 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Even if the kid was beaten every day of his life by his parents....there still is no excuse for his actions. God damn kids today...and I am only 22. that shit would have never happened when I was in High school. I hope the kid gets the death penalty. And, I usually don't agree w/ the death penatly, i sway back and forth w/ the notion but cases like this reinforce my belief in it!!!We are really the only western democratic country that has the death penalty...but we also have the most fucked up crimes. I guess it comes w/ the freedom...all in all it is a good trade off!!!!


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GrkqtOandAfan
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posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:18 PM      
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I have been told to go back to my old self where i dont have an opinion and all I do is flirt with the male members of the board, so there for i withdraw all my comments in this past thread and apologize to all that i have pissed off

thank you
QT

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opak
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:40 PM      
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GRK...hun...no offense but Wha wha wha???



jewdown
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:44 PM      
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Tarp, are you happy now? You made QT feel bad.

It's ok QT, he won't hurt you anymore. That is, unless you want him to.


bluetarp
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:46 PM      
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There ya go again GrkQT, this is a discussion. Don't pull that cute girl stuff wimpering into the background. But maybe, just maybe, you can learn something from me, and some of the others who disagree with you, and simulatneously, if ya got the nerve, you can influence someone elses opinions too. Nobody is truly going to change there stance in one little topic. But over time the stands you take, if you feel strongly enough, and put a little logic in it, instead of feel good thoughts, you will influence others. Nothing to get personal about. You just happened to hit a hot topic for a few people. Have a nice night.




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GrkqtOandAfan
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posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:47 PM      
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jew it was not tarp dont blame him because then he is going to start running his mouth again. ;-)

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opak
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:49 PM      
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Dunno what you were told or by who but it's always more respectable to stand by what you believe in...

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posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:52 PM      
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You know what?

Everyone has their own views and opinions. We have to respect that. We just need to avoid attacking people for what they believe in. Just accept that opinions differ and move on.

Can't we all just AGREE TO DISAGREE?




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posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:52 PM      
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Opak its like talking to an empty room right now, so i am stepping off my soapbox.

Blue calm yourself it wasnt you, you could never shut me up.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:55 PM      
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great point rookie apparently some people cant realize that cough andykum cough



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Unicron
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:57 PM      
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Leave Grkqy alone.she's cute..thus than, she can say anything she wishes

bluetarp
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 9:57 PM      
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The worst part of it all, I wasn't getting personal, I don't want anybody here to shut up. I don't expect anybody to change their opinion here. Everybody just listen to the words, don't interpret anger in my words. Christ, all I did was express an opinion.


Ya might wanna wipe off your shoes. Sorry!
jewdown
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 10:00 PM      
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Rookie, good point & well put.

adolescentmasturbator,
quote:

...cough andykum cough

damn funny man. lol

Opinions are to be shared and respected. As long as they are not moronic, ignorant, and in bad taste (unless that is the point of the inquery) Anyway, this was started to get serious input. So lets all calm down and have a group hug.



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