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McBourbon
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 10:39 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jul. 01
Yeah....great idea.......let's make the bastard a martyr so more of his goat fucking yahoos kill more of our innocents. If there is no God, this guy has no reason to fight. Killing him makes him a god to his people though. So....we prove to him that there is no god.....or we prove to his yahoos that there is no god by bombing them until the middle east looks like a big hole someone was digging to China.

So what if I'm from Cleveland?

I should have graduated from Grumpy's Demented Family...but I missed my graduation day
HRPuffNStuff
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 10:41 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 01
imo, i think we should forget about conventional war fare and just conquer. bring back the old days of "if you lose, then you are now ours"... we should go over to the middle east and bomb them for weeks then send in the ground troops in tanks and humvees. just take out the whole middle east except for israel. why you ask? because the whole fucking middle east has tried to kill off america in one way or another and we should just end it now. just lay the whole place to waste and stick a flag in the ground and claim the land for the us (or hand it over to israel).

i agree with one of the points made before about how the western powers should all strike and i'm fully agreeing with that notion.

also... with the nukes that people are talking about, that should only be a last resort. if we could drop a hydrogen bomb (less radiation) then that would be fine. because the radiation will destroy the land/water and so forth and then no one will ever be able to use that land anytime in the future.

in conclusion ... carpet bomb all of the middle east from palestine to afganistan and then just conquer because these people don't deserve to have a place to call home....

btw that video of the people dancing in the streets should have ended in static because a missle of ours had just blown them the fuck up... thats my opinion....

"There's a difference between being punk as fuck and just a fucking punk" - Warped Tour Sticker
Scrappleking
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:39 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Aug. 01
I think that all Americans today want revenge, so do I. I'm torn though, on one hand, I want to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan. I want to drop so many bombs on that place that there will be nothing left. On the other hand, I realize that the above reaction will only cause chaos and maybe more terrorism. We cannot kill civilians and others who have nothing to do w/ what happened yesterday. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be a real decision maker in the government today.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

*adopted 9/9 by Jon Benet Norton*
Scrappleking
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:39 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Aug. 01
I think that all Americans today want revenge, so do I. I'm torn though, on one hand, I want to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan. I want to drop so many bombs on that place that there will be nothing left. On the other hand, I realize that the above reaction will only cause chaos and maybe more terrorism. We cannot kill civilians and others who have nothing to do w/ what happened yesterday. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be a real decision maker in the government today.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

*adopted 9/9 by Jon Benet Norton*
Scrappleking
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:39 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Aug. 01
I think that all Americans today want revenge, so do I. I'm torn though, on one hand, I want to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan. I want to drop so many bombs on that place that there will be nothing left. On the other hand, I realize that the above reaction will only cause chaos and maybe more terrorism. We cannot kill civilians and others who have nothing to do w/ what happened yesterday. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be a real decision maker in the government today.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

*adopted 9/9 by Jon Benet Norton*
MaynardGKrebs
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:40 AM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

NATO is meeting to discuss invoking Article Five of its charter which would give a green light to the United States to retaliate once it determines who is responsible for Tuesday's attack and expediate assistance from other NATO members.

I just pulled that off the CNN web-site.



I have alot to say about this. Been thinking about it since it happened.

1. We have to accept God. Patriotism isn't enough. What do I mean by that? They are fighting a Holy War, and we are fighting for freedom. God is MUCH stronger then freedom or democracy. Wether we believe in God or not, They do. We have to accept the fact that we're going to die. They all have and that's why they can do this so effectively. You'll never see Kamakazie's from the U.S. because we don't have that same mentality.

2. Nuclear weapons aren't the answer. Yeah it would send a message to them, but there are 2 ramifacations I'm worried about. 1) the environment. 2) nuclear retaliation. You can say all you want that they can't retaliate with nuclear weapons but I say that's bullshit. Where there's a will there's a way. Just look what they did yesterday.

3. A possible solution. Carpet bomb them for weeks. Not just a day. Or a week. But several weeks. Sorte after sorte of planes dropping bombs. Will civilians get killed? YES. Will the complete and total devestation of their entire country be a big message to everyone? YES. Instead of showing them that we have this one big weapon, lets show them a little more. Show them that we have the MANPOWER, and the FUNDS to carry out an operation that big. Lets build billions of bombs. And drop them on EVERY country that has terrorists. Completely level the fuckers.


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i can see through you, see your true colors
Canweseeyourstuff
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:47 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
I don't think of it as revenge but as a counter strike in a act of war against this country and all Democratic societies.The action should be harsh to send a message to all countries that harbor and finance these animals.we should take out symbols of their society with what ever weapons are available show the full capabilities of the greatest fighting force in the world the US Armed Forces.

DoughBoy
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 11:50 AM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
What we need is a skirmish line. A big one. Lots of angry motherfuckers to march arcross that wasteland called the Middle-East and demolish everything leaving death and destruction in their wake. These people need to understand that we will not take this.
We're being held hostage with a double edged sword on one side, we're cut by the terrorist actions. If we do nothing, then we justify the ideas of American weakness. On the other side, we are cut by the fact that if we kill these people, they still win because they become martyrs. Fucked if we do, fucked if we don't.
I think we have to do this for OUR sake. For OUR feelings. For OUR nationalism. We need some type of revenge; and personally I want BLOOD!

Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:17 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

we should go over to the middle east and bomb them for weeks then send in the ground troops in tanks and humvees. just take out the whole middle east except for israel.



Do you want another Vietnam? or the equivelant of the failed Russian invasion in Afghanistan?

Sacrificing huge numbers of American and Allied lives in what will develop into a holy war that could and would last for years will not accomplish anything. Nor will taking things to a nuclear level. As soon as you begin to contemplate either of those two scenarios you are talking about what could develop into a world war. Other countries will not idly sit back and let America or the Western powers invade their neighbors, they will view it as a threat to their own sanctity. And what happens if we invade & win? We can't occupy a force across the whole middle east logistically or pragmatically.


Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste
Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith
MaynardGKrebs
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:36 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Jan. 01
We won't be in another ground war. Our weaponry is too advanced. At most, it will be another Desert Storm scenario where we bomb them then send in cleanup crews for what the bombs didnt get.



EDIT - I just found this quote in an article on MSNBC.com.

THE SCALE of the attacks and the loss of life — mostly in New York City’s World Trade Center, but also near Pittsburgh and Washington — ensured that “no option has been taken off the table,” a senior U.S. official told MSNBC.com. Asked if that included nuclear weapons, one senior official said: “I said no option is out of the question. That’s precisely what I mean.”

MSNBC.com Article

This message was edited by MaynardGKrebs on 9-12-01 @ 2:45 PM
The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:56 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Sep. 00
quote:

MOSCOW, Aug. 30 (UPI) -- Russia's Foreign Ministry on Thursday condemned
the appointment of Saudi terrorism suspect Osama bin Laden as the
commander-in-chief of the armed forces of Afghanistan's ruling Taliban
regime,
the official RIA Novosti news agency reported.

Bin Laden's appointment confirmed that a center of international terrorism
is being set up in Taliban-controlled territory, the ministry said in a
statement.


Osama bin Laden is not just someone hiding in Afghanistan, He is part of thier government. He is in charge of their armed forces. If he is indeed the guy behind the attack on us, the country of Afghanistan should be leveled.

Clint Horrace
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:57 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

We won't be in another ground war. Our weaponry is too advanced. At most, it will be another Desert Storm scenario where we bomb them then send in cleanup crews for what the bombs didnt get.

The problem with that is you can not win a war without ground troops. Although this isn't a war per se, inside forces must be used. Believe me, we do know where Bin Laden is but at this time it is not politically acceptable to take him out and we don't have full proof he is responsible. Also, America is not ready for this action. The retaliations would be much greater than we could imagine, that was only 4 planes, maybe 20 members total. There are many more of them lurking about waiting to strike. My sisters office building in Boston was just evacuated because they found a bomb next door. All i can say is be prepared America, be prepared!
-Excellent Posting Froy!!!-


I am the C.L.I.T. Commander!
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 09-12-2001 @ 2:59 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
It's essentially a threat. It's been said by almost every commander in chief any time a military crisis has been present since Truman uttered the same words back in 1951 during Korea.


Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste
Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith
ThatTerribleAwfulNegro
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 3:03 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
I don't want to see any more speeches by politicians or statesmen!

I don't want to hear any more appeals to rationalism and conciliatory approaches!

I want to wake up in the morning to colin powell on the screen with a map OUTLINING the 25 sites
the USA bombed that morning! I want continued and extensive bombing of ALL countries that WE
suspect are harboring terrorists. that's it! no excuses, no apologies! I want to see doors stormed in and
people dragged out kicking, crying and screaming in neighborhoods all over the usa. anywhere where
they danced and laughed with delight last night to the tortuous deaths of thousands!! I want blood!




quote:

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Clint Horrace
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 4:46 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jun. 01
Anyone age 18-35 (most of the board) looking for a way to make a difference should join the military. Not only will this give you a first hand perspective of hatred towards the US throught the world, you can actually help do something about it. I believe more than the majority or the US wants action to be taken, however I am willing to bet most of these people would not risk themselves to carry out these retaliations.

I am the C.L.I.T. Commander!
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:03 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
It was mentioned at countries that "harbor terrorism." The argument could be made that the U.S. does that shit too. You complained about Saddamn doing this shit well guess what we supported him when he was killing Kurds left & right.

Obviously a nuke would be too much but military action must be taken. Now killing civilians is not an option. I suggest giving heavy support to the Northern Alliance and wiping out the Taliban military. Killing more civilians won't solve anything. The Taliban doesn't care if you kill its civilians. It has no regard for human life whatsoever. The majority of Afghans hate their government but don't do anything because of fear of death.



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The Painter
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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:18 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
quote:

The majority of Afghans hate their government

Maybe, but they hate us more.

IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal
I will die a traitor's death
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:22 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
I've been thinking about it and knowing our government, etc. I have the strangest feeling/belief that we will not have any major retaliation. Arrest a guy or so, but nothing overly big. And then we'll apologize to them.
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:30 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Ikeaboy, if that is true, and there isn't a sufficient retaliation, then it's Bush who will feel the terror of an American attack. There's no way the country will stand idly by and let him twiddle his thumbs if he does nothing.


Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste
Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith
IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal
I will die a traitor's death
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:34 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
I hope it isn't true but it's a real possibility it might. Bush, et al will be working on a plan for so long that will be so nice, so kind. Limit the number of casaulties, save the greatest number --- offend the least. Time will go by, even if it's two weeks, people will be pissed, press conference with the typical "we are planning something big"...plan, plan, plan, plan, plan. it's blown over, life goes on.

This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 9-12-01 @ 7:39 PM
leather-cheerio-face
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:38 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
froy, you are so f-in' right. We need the kind of swift retribution that comes from the muzzle of a gun. If that makes myself, the victims families, and the rest of america feel 1/100th better about this horrible situation, it will be perfectly justified. You know how you keep the perpatrators from becoming martyrs? By wiping all the disgusting animals that would idolized them from the face of the earth. I'm not saying that innocents should be sacrificed, but I think that if we penetrate the borders of countries like afghanistan, the militants that would cause problems in the future will rise to the top. clear I don't belive in conquering other contries that could be potential threats, but that's exactly what we should do in this specific situation. If we install our own goverments in countries like afgahnistan, pakistan, and iraq, In a matter of years the people will turn when they tastle the type of freedom we were blessed with. After a sufficient amount of time, after we've given them the tools to become a prosperous society, evacuate and let them take over. Look at germany. This is one incredibly fucked situation, and what the american people need right now is a quick and decisive resolution, Not years of trials charging people with these horrific crimes in absentia because we didn't invade.

P.S. I am not a crackpot.

Don't bother picking a fight with me, because I'm pretty sure you're all just imaginary individuals created by my computer to keep me distracted while it plots it's escape.

slackjaw
The Cunt-Twat is my WORLD!
The Great Pumpkin
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:45 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
CNN was just reporting that the ruling bodies of NATO indeed invoked the "all for one" treaty. Furthermore, they have stated that if the U.S. seeks help in this case, NATO nations will provide whatever support is needed. This is a major step. It signifies a united stance against terrorist nations. It also adds signifficant weight on the international political scene. Wth the support of all the NATO nations, the "world view" will be much less critical.



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ass-fucker
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:12 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
NATO is a new version of the 'allies' in WWII. things are heating up.

DannyNoonan
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:32 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Apr. 01
The back-door dealing behind this upcoming revenge would be fascinating to hear first hand.

Nukes=BAD!

Thanks, Froy, FTL, Magus, et al. Anthony, thank you, too.

Lgaia
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:44 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
I have some ideas for revenge, and here's what they are:::

1) Find Bin Laden, if it takes months, so what! After he is found, detain his ass. Then we should find all of his followers, all the militant finatics that support him, and detain them. After we have found all of his followers, we should pack the streets of manhattan with Americans, and as violent and fucked up as this sounds, we should release them in the streets, and let the Americans that line the street rip them apart, beat and trample them to death. Allot of people may think this is violent and not right, but in this case I believe they should die as our fellow New Yorkers had to,An eye for an eye so to speak, scared,& in pain. A violent death.

2) After all of his follwers have been destroyed, we should take this motherfucker and throw him off the tallest building possible, or we could build a glass box, suspended between the 2 "New twin towers" and lock him in it, and let him rot and die in it, and leave it as a monument to those who fuck with americans, and think terrorism is acceptable.

I apologize to anyone who thinks this sucks. I know this is an unrealistic solution/scenario BUT, I am angry right now, and feel so much pain for all these people, and this is how I am dealing.



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