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Cluster F
| posted on 04-04-2002 @ 7:01 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
| Well, Burnitz has shown so far to either strikeout, or hit a home run. He MUST get more consistant. Why Alomar went in the 9th down by 1 is beyond me. And, personally, and i know its only 3 games, Mo Vaughn should be batting 5th, and Alfonzo should bat 3rd. Just my opinion.
Now watch us take 2 out of 3 in Atlanta.
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Root for Red Sox to overtake Yanks
Long Live Psycho Bitch
I co-won the Super Bowl Challenge :) |
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Bloody Anus P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 04-04-2002 @ 9:34 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00
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Mo Vaughn should be batting 5th, and Alfonzo should bat 3rd. Just my opinion.
They need to keep Vaughn and Burnitz away from each other in the lineup, batting 2 lefties back-to-back who are that prone to strike out can cause more offensive trouble, especially against lefties.
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rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 04-04-2002 @ 10:33 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01
| Unbelievable! We lost again to the Pirates, it's not going to get easier against the Braves. Nice to see Burnitz get a Homerun. Estes could have played better, specially cause it was the Pirates...
Shit Happens...
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Francine Banger
| posted on 04-04-2002 @ 10:35 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00
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They need to keep Vaughn and Burnitz away from each other in the lineup, batting 2 lefties back-to-back who are that prone to strike out can cause more offensive trouble, especially against lefties.
Exactly. You cant have Vaughn and Burnitz back to back.
The thing that is debatable, is putting Piazza 3rd, and Vaughn 4th.
But fact is it dont matter where they hit in the lineup. You need more production than this. This is terrible to lose 2 out of 3 to Pittsburgh. Not to mention I lost 100 dollars on this damn game.
Bad Move by Valentine pinch hitting for Cedeno in the 8th. When they brough the lefty, Cedeno is a switch hitter. Let him bat please. He didnt need to bring Valentin in to pinch hit for him. And of course, 1st pitch to Valentin, Double Play.
Tomorrow is the key game in Atlanta, they need to win that with Astacio vs. Lopez. If they lose, they are going to be in trouble facing Glavine and Maddux on Saturday and Sunday.
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NAMBLA Prez G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S.
Kid Touching Corps | posted on 04-04-2002 @ 11:42 PM | |
Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01
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5. Root for Red Sox to overtake Yanks
Cluster, youre one of my heroes. But this is harsh. I dont know if I can do it. Not for the Yanks sake. Its just, its Boston. How bout Cleaveland? Or Baltimore? They hate New Yorkers less. Im always looking forward to following the Crack Commitee. But this #5 is rough.
Thanks for the pic, Sephiroth
"Gimmy the bat, faggit"
"I AM ZEROMUS. I AM THE HATRED!"
Graduated from the ShinRa Inc. Newbie School Sanction where Sephiroth brought me in and made me what I am. We miss you.
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Francine Banger
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 12:21 AM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00
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How bout Cleaveland? Or Baltimore? They hate New Yorkers less
Cleveland isnt in the Yankees division, and Baltimore will be about 40 games behind the Yankees when its all said with and done.
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TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 04-05-2002 @ 8:48 AM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
| Just wanted to thank the Mets for their gift of Robin Ventura to us. 2 game winning home runs. Nice!!
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Cluster F
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 11:34 AM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
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They need to keep Vaughn and Burnitz away from each other in the lineup, batting 2 lefties back-to-back who are that prone to strike out can cause more offensive trouble, especially against lefties.
Point well taken, i will take back my statement of before. Put Piazza 3rd then, and bat Vaughn 4th.
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Just wanted to thank the Mets for their gift of Robin Ventura to us. 2 game winning home runs. Nice!!
Enjoy it while you can, he'll be done with his productive season by the middle of May. It just fucking figures that Zeile and Ventura have done well the past few days.
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Cluster, youre one of my heroes. But this is harsh. I dont know if I can do it. Not for the Yanks sake. Its just, its Boston. How bout Cleaveland? Or Baltimore? They hate New Yorkers less. Im always looking forward to following the Crack Commitee. But this #5 is rough.
Thanks for the praise Mr. Prez. However, when it comes to #5, that isnt the most important thing for a Mets fan to worry about, its just a little bonus if it happens. Realistically, the Sox are the only team in the East that can take the Yanks down. Thats why i said what i said.
No matter though, #5 means little to nothing to me right now.
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Root for Red Sox to overtake Yanks
Long Live Psycho Bitch
I co-won the Super Bowl Challenge :) |
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PeterDragon
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 12:47 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
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When they brough the lefty, Cedeno is a switch hitter
Problem is that Cedeno, while a switch hitter, is better as lefty (as far as OBP - .376 vs .344 in almost 4x as many AB's from 99-01)(he does have more pop from right side though)
Alomar is also better from the left side (OBP .413 vs .380, 3x as many AB's) although not as drastic a difference.
This of course is another reason to bat Piazza 3rd, Vaughn 4th, Alfonzo 5th, and Burnitz 6th.
Mets went from having no lefty presence to being predominately lefty (if you consider Cedeno & Alomar better from left side, with Vaughn & Burnitz - Only Piazza & Alfonzo (and maybe Payton) from right side.
Tonight we'll see if Astacio can be a big game pitcher - we need a strong performance in first visit to enemy territory.
Teenweek, you've got to do better to get our goat; Ventura was a popular Met, and most fans wish him well, even if it means in the Bronx.
Nambla, maybe we can have a Jr. Crack committee for those who only want 1-4 :)
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TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 04-05-2002 @ 2:05 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
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Teenweek, you've got to do better to get our goat; Ventura was a popular Met, and most fans wish him well, even if it means in the Bronx.
That wasn't my intention. I knew he would play well if he came to the Yankees. I am sure I posted in some met thread about that. Especially Francine said bad things about Ventura and how bad he sucks. I am just glad he is a Yankee.
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Cluster F
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 2:58 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
| OK....#5 has been officially been dropped from the list of objectives for the crack committee.
Go Mets tonight against those scumbag Braves.
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Root for Red Sox to overtake Yanks
Long Live Psycho Bitch
I co-won the Super Bowl Challenge :) |
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Francine Banger
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 5:58 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00
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Problem is that Cedeno, while a switch hitter, is better as lefty (as far as OBP - .376 vs .344 in almost 4x as many AB's from 99-01)(he does have more pop from right side though)
Alomar is also better from the left side (OBP .413 vs .380, 3x as many AB's) although not as drastic a difference.
Hes still a better hitter than Valentin. And he would stay out of the double play which Valentin eventually hit into.
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That wasn't my intention. I knew he would play well if he came to the Yankees. I am sure I posted in some met thread about that. Especially Francine said bad things about Ventura and how bad he sucks. I am just glad he is a Yankee.
I wonder if it was his 2 years of sucking that had something to do with it.
He may be off to a great start, big deal. He got off to a great start last year with 2 Homeruns in the Opener against Atlanta.
Get used to this Phrase Yankee fans.
"The Pitch to Ventura, Ground Ball 2nd Base, Easy Play and he's out"
I dont wish him well at all.
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Bloody Anus P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 04-05-2002 @ 9:19 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00
| Mets bring in Strickland, deal Chen
ATLANTA -- The eighth inning wasn't troublesome for the Mets' bullpen through the first three games of the season. But with John Franco on the disabled list and not expected to be back in his role as setup man for at least another month, general manager Steve Phillips wasn't about to wait for a problem to crop up.
Phillips pulled off his second deal in three days Friday, acquiring right-hander reliever Scott Strickland from Montreal in exchange for southpaw Bruce Chen, minor leaguers Dicky Gonzalez and Luis Figueroa and a player to be named later. New York also received a pair of minor leaguers in the deal in southpaw Phil Seibel and outfielder Matt Watson, both of whom will report to Double-A Binghamton in the Eastern League.
It was the first deal between Phillips and Omar Minaya, Phillips' former assistant and now Montreal general manager.
The move strengthens the New York bullpen, adding another fireballer to a group that already boasts hard throwers in Armando Benitez, Grant Roberts and Kane Davis. Not only will Strickland assume most of Franco's responsibilities as setup man, he may also get the occasional save opportunity should Benitez need a day off.
Strickland, 25, has a durable arm as evidenced by a career-high 77 appearances (10th among NL relievers) last season with the Expos. He was 2-6 with a 3.21 ERA in 81 1/3 innings and struck out 85 while holding the opposition to a .222 batting average. Right-handed batters hit .189 against him in 2001 and have hit .189 against him during his career.
He also converted nine of 12 save opportunities last year after the Expos traded closer Ugueth Urbina to Boston. Strickland appeared in one game this season, pitching a scoreless inning against Florida on Wednesday.
"The loss of Franco leaves us exposed late in the game," Phillips said. "I think David Weathers has picked up some of that load but we do stretch the pen without John out there. John is probably a month away, but you can't accurately or fairly predict when he'll be back.
"We're giving up a lot in Bruce Chen but we're getting back a quality relief pitcher. The main reason for the deal is that we have enough depth to pick up the slack in middle relief so I don't think we overpaid. Obviously the Expos and other teams look at Strickland as a closer today or in the future. We gave up comparable talent for a better fit for the team. We wanted to hold Chen as protection for our starting pitching but what we know today is that our starters are healthy and that Johnny is not."
Manager Bobby Valentine was excited about the prospect of adding Strickland's mid-90s fastball and hard slider to his late-inning mix. His arrival will mean that Weathers, Roberts and Co. won't be overworked, as was the case last season with Dennis Cook and Turk Wendell.
The way right-handers Davis and Roberts have pitched against lefties has also impressed Valentine enough that he felt comfortable parting with Chen. Weathers, Roberts, Davis and Chen had combined to pitch three scoreless eighth innings against Pittsburgh earlier this week.
Valentine also insisted that Strickland's presence will in no way impact Benitez's standing. The big man is still the closer, while Strickland will only be an occasional understudy. He said had they picked up Strickland last season, Valentine said Benitez probably have pitched in fewer games.
"Bruce is a guy you hate to give up," Valentine said. "But if the present configuration sets up the same all year, then Bruce's 50 innings pitched wouldn't weigh as important as Strickland's 50 or 60 innings or even last year's 81.
"We like what we see in [Strickland], " Valentine added. "If we could have gotten him halfway through last year for Cook and Wendell, we would have made that trade no doubt."
The move won't be the last one Phillips makes. Franco did some isometric exercises on Friday and felt no pain in his left elbow for the first time in weeks. When he comes off the DL, another pitcher will have to be sent down or traded.
Chen was out of options as are Roberts and Davis. Valentine said he will continue to go with 12 pitchers for "the long haul," so the reshaping of the bullpen should continue in one form or another over the course of the next month.
The additions of Watson and Seibel, both 23, won't be immediately felt at the Major League level. Watson was Montreal's 2001 minor league player of the year, hitting .330 to win the Class A Florida State League batting title. He was second in the league in hits (147) and had 74 RBIs. Seibel is a control pitcher who was 10-7 with a 3.95 ERA in 29 games last season.
In other moves, the Mets claimed infielder Marcos Scutaro off waivers from Montreal and assigned him to Norfolk. He will fill the void created by Figueroa's departure. Outfielder Chris Latham, who was claimed off waivers from Toronto earlier this week accepted his assignment to Norfolk and infielder Andy Tracy, who was claimed off waivers from Montreal on March 27, cleared waivers and was outrighted to Norfolk.
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Sucks they had to give up Chen, he's got good stuff.. How long though before he ends up in Florida and completes his NL East tour?
Looks like Minaya is trying to prove that the Expos are allowed to make trades.
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PeterDragon
| posted on 04-05-2002 @ 10:45 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
| Bobby Cox on Mets Trade: Strickland will definitely help Mets now, Chen will help Expos later. At least Strickland is 25, and not 35 like in some past deals.
Watson, by the way, is a prospect. Watson can hit, .330 in 2001 for Jupiter in the high-Class-A Florida State League, .380 two years ago in the New York-Penn. Both numbers won batting titles. He was named to the FSL all-star team, and the Expos' minor-league player of the year.
Good solid win tonight. The way the game began, I was nervous as hell; Mets down 1-2-3, and Braves get 2 runs in 2 batters. Mets got big hit by Ordonez of all people, and put screw to Lopez, something they didn't do last year. Astacio came back to pitch solid game, striking out Andrew Jones 3 times after the HR (Jones struck out a 4th time later). Weathers made big pitch vs. Sheffield to keep the game in hand.
Now it's D'Amico's turn.
This message was edited by PeterDragon on 4-5-02 @ 10:55 PM |
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Cluster F
| posted on 04-06-2002 @ 7:40 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
| Thought id bring this back to the TOP! D'Amico looking very sharp so far, just like i hoped (and knew) that he could. Lets keep it up.
Oh, isnt it something that Glendon Rusch threw a fucking 3 hitter yesterday, and that Robin Ventura and Todd Zeile are hitting the ball hard? Im sure Bruce Chen will now have a no hitter this year too.
**EDIT** If thats the type of shit that Payton and Ordonez are gonna pull, then im gonna be pissed a lot at them this year. Bases loaded no outs, and those 2 dipshits fuck up and we get nothing. Sorry for the rant, at least we are still winning, but we cant do this against a team like the Braves.
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
Long Live Psycho Bitch
I co-won the Super Bowl Challenge :)
This message was edited by Cluster F on 4-6-02 @ 8:51 PM |
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Bloody Anus P.L.F.
Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal HYBRID THINKS I'M A GENIUS | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 10:27 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 00
| well that was a nice little inning.
guess I don't have to be as pissed about Payton and Ordonez ... for now. Very impressed with D'Amico.
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BIV G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S.
Xenophobe Defense Brigade
Brine shrimp is more interesting than I am.
The only thing that will get rid of my shitty status is another board wipe or a series of blowjobs. I am one uninformed hound. | posted on 04-06-2002 @ 10:41 PM | |
Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02
| Hey B.A., how are the Mets doing so far? (season)
They got any chance this year?
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Mutant Human/Alien crossbreeds=less gooder
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PeterDragon
| posted on 04-06-2002 @ 10:42 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
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Glendon Rusch threw a fucking 3 hitter yesterday
Don't forget about the homer he hit to make it sweeter :)
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This is terrible to lose 2 out of 3 to Pittsburgh
Pirates beat Cubs for 2nd straight time, giving them a 4 in a row; Mets shouldn't have lost those games, but maybe the Pirates aren't going to be as bad as we thought.
Good game tonight, but I don't know how much Mets won and how much Braves lost. 7 errors between the two teams!! Braves make some great plays, and some terrible errors. D'Amico looked awfully sharp, and it was Payton missing the cutoff which really hurt, allowing Chipper to get to 2nd.
Hopefully Piazza is OK - it sux that he had to come out after that play at the plate. No word yet.
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Cluster F
| posted on 04-06-2002 @ 11:00 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00
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Great 9th inning. Smoltz got killed which is always good.
Can Benitez EVER get a 1-2-3 9th inning down? Granted, his 2 appearences havent meant anything, but please get some guys out.
Ordonez and Payton came through when they had to (mostly).
Was a very good game for 8 innings, shouldve never been that close though, the Mets tried to give the game away.
D'Amico's performance = silencing some critics maybe? This guy has the 2nd best stuff on the team outside of Leiter.
Latest word on Piazza...contusion on leg (knee i believe), hes day to day. Thank God for that, because that play looked bad.
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
Long Live Psycho Bitch
I co-won the Super Bowl Challenge :)
This message was edited by Cluster F on 4-6-02 @ 11:15 PM |
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IAmMighty
| posted on 04-07-2002 @ 12:05 AM | |
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00
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D'Amico's performance = silencing some critics maybe? This guy has the 2nd best stuff on the team outside of Leiter.
I don't think D'Amico's stuff was ever in question. How long before he gets injured...
"It's raining in story land...
...stuck in the pages so long"-King's X |
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Cunt-Twat No real… its cool to wear childrens Band-Aids.
I'm not a Cockblocker,
I'm a COCKSUCKER! | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 9:10 AM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
| last night's game was amazing!! let's go mets!!
:) WHO SAID I DON'T LOVE THE SLACKJAW?!? :)
LETS GO METS, 2002!! |
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PeterDragon
| posted on 04-07-2002 @ 1:27 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
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I don't think D'Amico's stuff was ever in question. How long before he gets injured...
You done took the words right out of my mouth :)
If at the end of the year D'Amico hasn't spent significant time on D/L, his critics will be answered.
Mets are probably confident in his ability to stay healthy since they traded Chen (kinda let's support our current injuries - Franco - rather than worry about future possible injuries).
Leiter starting this game a little shaky - hopefully he'll get it together.
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rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 04-07-2002 @ 3:09 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01
| The Mets are back on track! They are whipping Brave ass, 2-1 so far in this afternoon game. Let's go Mets!
2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
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PeterDragon
| posted on 04-07-2002 @ 10:49 PM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01
| Well, Braves pulled out the finale. Shame of it is that the 2nd (tying) run was due to an error.
On a lighter note,
If anyone of you caught tonight's "Futurama", the plot was "When Leela is signed to the New New York Mets, she is thrilled to be the first female major league blernsball player."
pretty funny episode; curious why Mets were chosen.
(I didn't know whether to put this in Mets thread, or in Futurama, so I'll put it in both ) :-p
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Francine Banger
| posted on 04-08-2002 @ 12:33 AM | |
O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00
| Somebody needs to tell Bobby Valentine that Julio Franco is not Barry Bonds. This is not 1985 Julio Franco either. The guy is well in his 40's, Stop Intentionally walking the guy every time he comes up!!!
He intentionally walked him last year in the Nightmare 9th Inning last year. It almost backfired in the 9th Inning again today, and he intentinally walks him again in the 14th. Pitch to the guy already.
Great Met luck that the Cubs game gets rained out today, so now Lieber starts against the Mets when he would have pitched today against the Pirates.
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